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East River Guide
01-23-2012, 07:15 PM
What sight picture POA/POI does a PM9 have at 10-15 yds? Target hold (#2) or combat hold (#3)? (thinking about one with night sights if it matters)

ETA the distance.

http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/sightimages.jpg

Tilos
01-23-2012, 07:42 PM
oops

kpm9
01-23-2012, 07:54 PM
Option 3 sight picture.

jouesdeveau
01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
Option 3 sight picture.
ditto

OldLincoln
01-23-2012, 10:33 PM
Now I don't know nuttin 'bout no night sight sight picture.... but... doesn't the front sight fill the gap on the rear sight? Wouldn't it be difficult to capture a moving target at night in those little slots of #3? I think I would wish for #2 if I had them.

East River Guide
01-24-2012, 04:35 AM
Its not really a "night sight" issue. I was specific about that only because differnt sights could have a different POA/POI, but some guns are set up to shoot POI top of the post, others on the dot. I very much prefer #2 for just the reason you mention though- I think you can be more accurate when the front post doesn't block your target.

muggsy
01-24-2012, 05:48 AM
My 1911 is set up to #2, but I installed the sights myself and that was my preference. Most three dot sights are set up like #3.

gb6491
01-24-2012, 06:59 AM
I don't have a PM9, but my CW45 ad CW9 have three dot Trijicon sights on them: both shoot POA/POI using sight picture No.2
Regards,
Greg

bufford
01-24-2012, 09:32 AM
My CM9 and PM40 both have #3

KMA
01-24-2012, 11:30 AM
My PM9 and MK9 have #3

jocko
01-24-2012, 12:04 PM
probably all 3 would be good for sitting at the local range and taking ones time, but just my two cents. In a SHTF situation, ur not gonna do any of the 3, If u see the front sight even, u best thank God for that part. If u try to do all this other stuff, u might be dead, certainly at night ur not gonna do that stuff. That front sight only will do the job easily at 10 yards and under and will do it alot faster than trying to line up all that stuff. Just my two cents.

340pd
01-24-2012, 12:22 PM
"I'm trying to think but nothing is coming out"
I believe all of them are pretty much center of mass at 30'. That is all I need.

sierrajb
01-24-2012, 02:37 PM
Hate to ask an obvious question, but I can't see the picture on my browser. Comes out with a red X. My popup blocker is OFF. What am I missing?

340pd
01-24-2012, 03:02 PM
Try this.

kb2wji
01-24-2012, 03:13 PM
Thank you for this post!! Cool diagrams too! I've always wondered this. Sometimes I am more to point of aim with #2, and sometimes #3. Door number 3 would be the right picture though. But hey, use what works best to your point of aim. I still have a touch of shot anticipation however, so i'll modify this slightly. Deep down I know I'm anticipating the shot, but I tell people I have more gravity between myself and the target, thus dropping my shot a half inch.

Spur57
01-24-2012, 07:08 PM
My CT laser was sight with the aid of a bore sight. The gun shoots POA/ POI. I use sight image 3 or 2 but my front dot rides on top of the back sight not inside the gap, kind like the dot on top of an i.....For this reason as Jocko said I practice with the front sight….and it works for me. The photo is not perfectly aligned but it gives the idea. http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/JoseNDT/PM9SightPicture.jpg

sierrajb
01-25-2012, 01:07 PM
Try this.

Thanks, 340pd! That helps mo' betta! I've used position #2 for the most part, but find that #3 will give me the best shot. Just kinda bugs me that part of my target is blocked by the sight. Either way, I can live with it...(pardon the pun).

ColdDeadHands1
01-29-2012, 11:46 PM
My PM9 is definitely a "sight image #3". I have the Meprolight Tru Dot night sights.

Thing is, I don't like it. I am accustomed to "sight image #2", a center hold with all my other guns. I want to change it. This can be changed by going to some combination of a taller rear / shorter front sight. My current front sight is .185" tall. Dawson Precision offers a tritium front sight that is .155" tall. Would this .03" be enough to change my point of impact?

If not, a taller rear sight is needed. Anyone have any height specs on either the Dawson Precision tritium 2 dot rear or the Novak tritium 2 dot rear?