CM9 recoil spring too stiff

[wvcountryboy]

Hey, guys. Anyone know if there are lighter recoil springs for the CM9? I decided to purchase one of these pistols for my wife, who doesn't prefer revolvers; however, she does have some degree of difficulty with racking the slides on most of my Glocks. I looked at my brother in law's new CW9 and the recoil spring is awfully stiff. If the CM9 is the same, it might be unpleasant for her.

I'm used to having aftermarket mod parts for Glocks and CZs :) and was wondering if there are any options for dropping in lighter recoil springs, etc for the CM series :confused:

Thanks for any info on this.

P.s., Does anyone know where I can purchase additional mags? Thanks.

[wyntrout]

The recoil springs are designed for these compact, close-toleranced Kahrs. Wolff makes the springs for Kahrs:

http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=1&mID=29#185

The CM9 and PM9 use the same springs and there are NO lower powered springs offered:

Recoil Springs PM-9, PM-40
Fits Kahr PM-9 (9mm) & PM-40 (.40 S&W) Only
Recoil Spring Sets - Are available with load-rated specifications. Each load-rated recoil spring package includes a factory power striker spring
The Kahr PM series uses a dual spring recoil spring system. The outer springs slips right off and the inner springs can be changed by careful disassembly of the recoil guide components.


Reduced Power...: None Available
Factory Standard.: 18 Lb.
Extra Power........: 20.5 Lb.



SKU Description Price ($) Add to cart 52818 KAHR PM9, PM40 STD RECOIL SPRING SET 18LB 8.99 52820 KAHR PM9, PM40 XP RECOIL SPRING SET 20.5LB 8.99 http://www.gunsprings.com/graphics/shell/dot_blank.gif


The springs take a set after a while... after the break-in and are somewhat less hard to rack, but don't count on a much easier rack.

Wynn:)

[wvcountryboy]

Thanks wyntrout! I appreciate the quick response. I'm wondering if locking the pistol in the open position for an extended period of time would quicken the set on the recoil spring. Is this advisable or do you think it would even make a difference?

[wyntrout]

You can do that... I did that with "Wifey's" P380 for weeks and it seemed to not help a bit. I did put the 5-lb striker springs from Wolff in all 7 of my Kahrs, but that's only ONE pound less on the trigger pull and doesn't help much with the rack.

Using the proper racking procedure can really help, but you still need a certain amount of strength to rack a Kahr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow

The Kahrs are just so compact and tight that they NEED the strong recoil springs to function.

Wynn:)

[wvcountryboy]

Thanks again for getting back to me quickly. If this is the case, I may have to get her over to an LCR for CCW and tell her to get over her phobia of revolvers :rolleyes: Then, I can simply acquire her new CM9 for myself! :biggrin1:

[wyntrout]

Whoever uses an auto for self-defense should be able to rack it forcibly and clear malfunctions. It takes more than just barely being able to get ONE round into the chamber. Jams are most common when trying to chamber a round, especially if you wait until the last moment.

It's very important to make sure the top round is all the way to the rear in the magazine, especially if you carry +1, as you should. Top off the mag and make sure that top round is fully to the rear. That should give you AT LEAST TWO shots.

Wynn:)

[KoolBreeze]

My advice would be to look elsewhere for your wife. She probably isn't going to like racking the CM9's slide, especially if she has trouble with the Glocks. But certainly try one out in a store before you commit to it. I think all of the pocket pistols are going to be a little on the stiff size because of their side, but Kahr is on the stiffest side of them.

I don't recall the M&P Shield being particularly stiff, you might look at it if you can find one. It's a little bigger than the CM9 though.

[wyntrout]

Oh, welcome to the forum and here's my "boiler plate welcome/info":

Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by Kahr Arms.
Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.
First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can download the pdf file here:
http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf
Impatient? Watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
Take down and re-assembly videos:
T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2cZgVg_SwA
MK series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zXmSCnIOaUk#t=0s
K series:
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.
A very handy one is the Kahr Lube Diagram:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.
Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?
There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


Wynn
Aka wyntrout

[stickbow9]

Welcome from Monroe, Washington. I can attest to things loosening up a bit during and after the break in period. Even my slide lock release is easier with the magazine out than it was prior to shooting it a bit. Good luck, I am searching for my wife as well.

[Flincher]

And welcome to the forum from balmy North Dakota

[Geobob]

Hello, WVcountryboy, and if you're new, welcome from Missouri to a great forum. Good people and info here!