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cliffattheshack
06-27-2015, 03:28 PM
On June 26, I picked up my new CT380 from a Gallery of Guns merchant, inspecting it thoroughly (I thought).

While doing my initial cleaning, I found that the barrel is pitted (see image URL below).

I emailed the picture to Kahr and will talk to them Monday about sending in the barrel.

Has anybody else found a problem like this?


http://home.comcast.net/~cliffwatts/files/Barrel defect.jpg

muggsy
06-27-2015, 04:09 PM
We had one other member with a pitted barrel problem, but I can't remember who it was. Try doing an advanced search for, "pitted barrel". It may have been HarryLee.

Armybrat
06-27-2015, 05:03 PM
Yes, that barrel should be replaced. No telling what other imperfections there might be under the surface.

Harrylee
06-28-2015, 11:00 AM
How right you are muggsy it was me. Had to replace the barrel on my CM9 due to my fault but we’re not getting in to that. So I didn’t think anything of getting a new barrel and swapping it out till I got the new barrel and started to clean it was full of packing grease so you couldn’t tell and first glance. The I got it clean that’s when my eyes bugged out. The one on that ct380 looks perfect compared to the one I got. They did make good on it but when I talked to them they had no idea what happened to the barrel they sent me. And yes all the barrels should be checked before sending out. So here is the first new barrel they sent me, did tell them I’d seen better looking barrels that where sitting on the bottom of the lake for a year, did get a chuckle from that. Anyway all is good now

http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12722&stc=1http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12723&stc=1http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12721&stc=1

CJB
06-28-2015, 02:21 PM
I am amazed Muggsey has not commented, or perhaps he just disagrees.... dunno.

Neither of those two examples look "pitted" to me. They both look like defects that occur in nickel plating.

Top example - Cliffattheshack's - the photo seems to show a piece "missing" with rough edges. The key part of the "non-pitted" scenario is not whats missing, but what was under it. Notice how smooth it is? The substrate, the steel of the barrel is smooth. That's not pitting. Its a case of flaked off plating. Notice the edges of the crater, the edges are more or less "even" in thickness. Pitting does not occur like that. I'm almost positive what you're seeing is a barrel that had some contamination prior to plating. Plating looks a hair on the heavy side, but maybe not, the photo can be a bit hard to judge. And, you can see a few "islands" of plating still attached in the interior of the crater. Probably places where there was no contamination. Important to note that this is not a dangerous situation, but... would cause aggrivation with picking up bits of jacket and lead. And.... I dare say, it would probably smooth itself out in time. But....I suspect Kahr will replace it.

Next example -

muggsy
06-28-2015, 03:36 PM
I did comment and I don't disagree. You need to work on your reading skills, not to mention your manners. The inside of the barrel doesn't need to be plated as the bullets fired through it are not made of stainless steel and won't cause galling. You might see a little leading with lead bullets, but lead is relatively easy to remove. Kahr Arms should replace the barrel as it isn't up to there high standards.

Buzzard45
06-29-2015, 08:47 AM
Having had the opportunity to examine in person Harrylee`s cm9 barrels, allow me to make these observations:
The original cm9 barrel was perfect (as close to perfection as can be reasonably expected from a man made object).
After an "incident", which i wont go into at this time, "pitting" was seen in the barrel. Since i am not a metallurgist, nor a gun smith, i can not say for sure that "pitting" is the correct term, but it was obviously damaged.
As i happened to visit on the day he received the replacement barrel i had the chance to see it up close, with several magnifying glasses, and let me tell ya, it was nasty. Outside was just fine, but from end to end inside there was "pitting" from muzzle to chamber.
The third barrel, looked as good as the original, originally.
As for the op`s barrel, i would think that Kahr will replace it without hesitation.

CJB
06-29-2015, 06:57 PM
We had one other member with a pitted barrel problem, but I can't remember who it was. Try doing an advanced search for, "pitted barrel". It may have been HarryLee.


Muggsey, this is what you wrote. I have not the faintest idea why you responded with ardent disrespect for my reading and etiquette skills.

In fact, I was more or less suggesting that your vast experience, second only to my own, would have you in perfect agreement.

muggsy
06-30-2015, 02:45 PM
Muggsey, this is what you wrote. I have not the faintest idea why you responded with ardent disrespect for my reading and etiquette skills.

In fact, I was more or less suggesting that your vast experience, second only to my own, would have you in perfect agreement.

Sorry CJB, I misunderstood what you were saying. No harm, no foul. I apologize for my error.

CJB
06-30-2015, 05:46 PM
Accepted good chap! Have a frosty whatever, put it on my tab!

muggsy
06-30-2015, 07:16 PM
I owe you one.