View Full Version : New to the forum and Kahr, MK9 or PM9?

03-21-2011, 02:01 PM
I've been toying with the idea of getting a 9mm Kahr pistol for CC. MK is steel and the weight will control some recoil, While the PM would be lighter to carry. Right now, I holster carry a Ruger SP101, or a Colt Defender. Pm might be nice to "pocket carry", while the MK might be too heavy for that. I'm open to suggestions at this point. Do you feel the MK might be more durable? I've had two Glocks before, so poly is not new to me. Thanks in advance.

03-21-2011, 02:22 PM
Wow... you're in the People's Republic of New Jersey and you can carry? You must have friends in high places. ;-)

I have not fired an MK but even with heavy SD loads my PM9 is easy to shoot and very accurate. I don't find the recoil a problem at all and personally would rather have the lighter poly frame. I have and occasionally carry a Glock 19 as well and the extra weight of that gun is a little annoying (though the real annoyance is the extra thickness). The PM9 completely disappears on my waist in a crossbreed supertuck where the G19 just fades into the background.

I can't speak directly to durability but I have heard good things about the ruggedness of the Kahr poly frames.

03-21-2011, 02:28 PM
Both are excellent guns. Your are correct in that the MK would be heavy for pocket carry but excellent for belt carry. I like an all steel gun immensely but if both are sitting on the hall way table the PM will leave the house with you anytime you want light and handy.

Disclaimer- the hall way table is only a safe storage area if it has a 1000# pound safe bolted, glued and with angry rottweiler guarding it.

Maybe get the PM9 now and a K9 later? As a belt gun the K isn't much different than the MK size or weight wise but a little improvement in grip area.

03-21-2011, 02:29 PM
If you are going to try to pocket carry, the PM would probably be better. I don't, so I went right past the MK9 to the K9 (1/2" or so difference in grip and bbl). It's my favorite Kahr. It's with me every day. Have it on right now under a golf shirt and is completely hidden. I have owned PM9s and I don't think durability is an issue. You might wear a PM9 out in a couple generations and you might never wear out a MK9. Not an issue. I prefer steel but must admit the PM9 is one fine handgun. I thought the PM9 was a little large for pocket carry. I don't wear baggy clothes. It seemed to me about the same in the pocket as a S&W J frame. Just handle both if you can and make your own decision. Both are fine handguns.
p.s. Recoil is not a problem with either.

03-21-2011, 03:00 PM
pm for pocket carry

03-21-2011, 03:14 PM
u won't shoot out a poly frame. glock has proven that. Kahrs are no different. People tend to worry aobut rund count when 99.995% willnoever shoot even 5000 rounds out of one peace. If you like the gun, just shoot the fokker like u stole it, if it breaks a part but the new part and insert it and the fokker again like u stole it. You wo't ever shoot out a kahr, certainly in all the years of owning guns and reading all I can about guns, I just never read of a gun that is worn out. they are not like jeans that after awhile, the material just goes to hell. Peope wear out to, just ask me!!! I certainly am not as good as I once was but I am good once as I once was...

Bill K
03-21-2011, 05:18 PM

Won't the poly frame flexing "control" some of the recoil? How about the hollow back strap of the PM9 maybe that also helps to diminish felt recoil. In spite of the difference in weight might it be possible for the felt recoil to be less with the PM9 than with the MK?

Bill K.

03-21-2011, 05:30 PM
i DIDN'T KNOW a POLY frame "flexed"

03-21-2011, 05:33 PM
I imagine it does in a miniscule way, not like a wet noodle that escaped from the soup bowl or anything, least ways I hope not anyhow.

Rubber grips will often times soak up a far amount of recoil, I don't think the PM9 has any forgiveness in the grip density at all. It benefits from a inner tube or rubber grip immensely.

03-21-2011, 06:46 PM
Welcome to the forum Dueeast!
The range master told me during breaking in of my CW40 that the poly frame does have some flex to it, which helped explain why I never had problems with metal framed semi's but the CW40 was causing some problems. A minor change in grip with my wrist more in line with the pistol seemed to cure the issues I was having.

03-21-2011, 06:57 PM
range master--humm what a title..

would a live bait dealer then be called a "master baiter"?

03-23-2011, 08:02 PM
I have both and like them both a lot. The PM9 will be for PD, and the MK9 will be for range-time and lots of draw from conealment and double-tap work.


03-27-2011, 06:58 PM
Newbie today! Picked up my first Kahr today, the MK9. I can't wait to get this pistol to the range on Wednesday... this pistol feels amazing in my hand.

03-29-2011, 06:33 PM
range master--humm what a title..

would a live bait dealer then be called a "master baiter"?

That name is probably one of the most popular on the side of fishing boats. :D:D:D


03-29-2011, 06:34 PM
Newbie today! Picked up my first Kahr today, the MK9. I can't wait to get this pistol to the range on Wednesday... this pistol feels amazing in my hand.

Welcome to the Kahr community. I love my MK9...shoots anything I put through it...like the energizer bunny. After shooting several hundred rounds through it, I had that urge to buy a PM9.


03-31-2011, 08:15 PM
Welcome Dueeast. I've not shot a MK9 so I cannot comment on the diferences between that gun and the PM9. I have a PM9 and I'm okay with the recoil. I think you already have identified the obvious differences, but I would add that the wooden grips on the MK9 might give you a little more to hold on to.

Good luck with your choice.

04-02-2011, 09:22 PM
The answer is yes.

I have both and I pocket carry both. The steel MK does not bother me, but I have always had lots of unnecessary things jammed in my pockets since I started wearing trousers.

Nearly everyone else seems to greatly appreciate the lower weight of the PM9.

The MK9 is probably my favorite gun to shoot though. I like it more than most full size guns.