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    I find a Ruger LCP or Kel Tec P3at in a back pocket holster is totally unspottable. I value my job but I value my life more. As long as your job doesn't make you go through a metal detector to get into the office - out of sight - out of mind.

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    Bawanna - It's sad that even in the police department there are that have and that have nots when it comes to rights. I think your stance is appealing because of it. But, I'm not going to go on a tyraid about needing a bomb shelter in rural WV with arsenal of guns/ammo and food/water, because the 1% that owns the government is out to get us. Promise I won't. But, one thing...what make it less safe at a police station than a convenience store? Generally both have cops around somewhere when there are donuts and coffee involved. ;-)

    Watson- I do have a pair of good running shoes, and I got some mace for Christmas last year. I think the running shoes are more helpful than the mace though, I would prefer bear spray, but I can't complain.

    Jocko- common sense? what's that? Probably code for leprechaun. I do see your point about companies having rights too. I just wonder there motives. No guns policies haven't helped schools and it won't help me when shtf. Me no gun, BG with gun...seems Lose-Win. Unless, I start taking advise from the movies or video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by losg View Post
    Bawanna - It's sad that even in the police department there are that have and that have nots when it comes to rights. I think your stance is appealing because of it. But, I'm not going to go on a tyraid about needing a bomb shelter in rural WV with arsenal of guns/ammo and food/water, because the 1% that owns the government is out to get us. Promise I won't. But, one thing...what make it less safe at a police station than a convenience store? Generally both have cops around somewhere when there are donuts and coffee involved. ;-)

    Watson- I do have a pair of good running shoes, and I got some mace for Christmas last year. I think the running shoes are more helpful than the mace though, I would prefer bear spray, but I can't complain.

    Jocko- common sense? what's that? Probably code for leprechaun. I do see your point about companies having rights too. I just wonder there motives. No guns policies haven't helped schools and it won't help me when shtf. Me no gun, BG with gun...seems Lose-Win. Unless, I start taking advise from the movies or video games.
    Actually its funny. I'm the only real coffee drinker, have to go next door to get it, no pot in the PD.
    Most turn up their nose at donuts too. Maybe it's just a weird dept.

    As far as convenience store PD comparison, higher density of BG's. At the PD it's good guys and pretty much bad guys and the bad guys usually ain't happy. Not because of me but I'd easily be collateral damage.
    At a convenience store there's mostly good folks and Jocko and only an occasional BG that wants to do harm.
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    I carry a .357 mag every day to work, sometimes even more, and have a pretty complete arsenal in my office as well.... screw the management......

    ....wait.... I am the management

    self employment really sux at times... just not often

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineappleshooter View Post
    I find a Ruger LCP or Kel Tec P3at in a back pocket holster is totally unspottable. I value my job but I value my life more. As long as your job doesn't make you go through a metal detector to get into the office - out of sight - out of mind.
    Ding Ding Ding...I think I found a winner, an excuse to get another gun. I haven't seen any guns that small to rent though, and I would worry about recoil and my accuracy with a gun I can't get my whole hand on. I like the grip on mine and fact that it sticks out IWB, because it's easy to retrieve. Of course, it's the pros and cons of more conceal ability.

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    I feel for you. Both jobs I have I must carry. PD ( but we don't allow the civies like Bawana to carry, don't know why either), and gun store / range, where even the hot blonde chic is packing heat.
    And we love coffee. Bawana, stop in sometime, I'll buy.
    Remember, it's their job and it's your life.

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    but u guys are all right in ur thoughts but again like our first amendment rightrs, we have none on this forum as u well know. We are guests here, no more, no less, A gun in my business or in a school u may think u have that 2nd amendment right but again it is not ur place. It is what it is, u have to make ur own decision if u want to go against policy and risk your job in able to feel safe to maybe thwart a SHTFsituation that statistics would show are 99.995% never gonna happen either. Just saying. Not trying to argue here, as I carry alot of places where I am not supposed to, but at best they will escort me out of the building, as I am now retired, so fokk um.

    I think most of u gun owners will admit that you have been around quite a few adults who are 100% legal to carry but that you would not feel comfortable with them carrying either. I know I have!! Just sayin
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    My job is on a "Federal Reservation" planted on the edge of a large Texas city. Texas recently passed a common sence law that forbid Texas employers from taking disiplinary action aginst employees that had their CHL and kept their handgun locked in their personel car/truck on the company parking lot, during work hours. The ideal is that you have the right to protect yourself during the commute to/from your workplace.
    My employer say, their Federal reserve ain't Texas and ANY weapon or ammo, on said reserve, is instant termanation. This is suppose to include bows and arrows, spears, numchucks and peppersprays if I understand right. (what about forks, spoons, our huge toolboxes full of hammers, knifes... crowbars too and what about all the golfclubs? Hummmmmm)
    We are currently "frying bigger fish" with my company right now, but there is a quiet disscussion about getting members of congress to pass something to just bring us inline with Texas state law. Belive me when I say, nothing the company is doing would stop an armed person from walking into our jobsite and doing harm.
    Their postion on CHL's having their firearms locked in their personel cars is all about percived LIABILITY to the corporation should anything bad happen.
    I have no need or desire to carry while working inside the building, but I don't belive that legally stored firearms, locked in a car, fifty yards beyond a security checkpoint and owned by a citizen that has a vetted Nation security clearance offers any real harm to the corporations bottom line. While my commute is short and safe (just 6.1 miles) some of my coworkers travel 100 miles or more a day on their commute (Texas is really big). To strip those folks of their rights under state law is just wrong.
    But my company never did worry about doing their "commoner" employees wrong, just as long as the executives are safe, comfortable and very well paid.
    This will always be an issue at work places as long as there is a lawyer that will whisper into the companies ear, "here's over what/and how I'd sue you..."
    ...and the existence of jurys that buy into that "laws and rules = compleatly safe" sillyness.

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    --- Losg

    The running shoes and mace are not bad but also the two things I am never without are a good tactical pocket knife and a good defensive flashlight. These are things that are still sommonly carried today that do not arouse suspicion. The knife I of course can't take on a plane but I have carried my surefire e2d LED defender through Sky ***** errr I mean TSA without so much as a second look. People really underestimate the advandage of a good tactical light for defense. 1. if your going to be carrying you should have one because most attacks happen at night and you need to be able to identify your target. and 2. Most attacks.............happen at night :P.............. and often just shining somone in the eyes with 200 lumens will make them re think their decision.

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    Isn't that why they invented Smart Carry/Thunderwear?

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