These are what I shoot most. Wally world is on the way to the range, and they don't have any other loads that come close to these in price. I've probably put over 1,000 through my CW9, and my new Glock 19 Gen 4 chews them up just fine. I do notice that since this is a lighter load my Glock likes to eject them into my forehead ever once in a while. The first 100 rounds through my Glock where Winchester 9mm NATO. More noticeable recoil, and didn't have any casings come flying straight back.