I placed an internet order on friday 12/16. Today, (mon 12/19) I emailed cust svc and asked if the items were in stock, and when would they ship. I checked back later (@ 2 hours) and I had received a reply that said both items were in stock, and that they would probably ship tomorrow or weds. Then I got a 2nd email that said they would ship today, and they provided me with a tracking #. Great cust svc !