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  1. #11
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    Manalive, your not a gun nut. If your head is starting to spin from all of those model destinations you're a man possessed. We'll have to send Father Jocko to perform an exorcisim accompanied by Brother Bawanna. It's the only cure. Try to avoid projectile vomiting. Father Jocko has a weak stomach and Brother Bawanna scrounges brass.
    Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYROhafe View Post
    I always thought they should have switched the pm and cm model names so you could have the Poor Mans, and the Cost More model but they got it backwards so maybe we could go with Pricey Model and Cheap Model lol....
    PYROhafe, that is perfect!

    manalive, since we live in CA, some of these are not available to us or are available to law enforcement only. Make sure to check the Roster of Handguns before you order online (but you may already know this)... http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

    For example, the CM9 is not available, but the PM9 is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planedude View Post
    Here is what I've found to explain it all.

    Kahr Model Legend


    TP: Polymer Frame, 3.965"~4.04" Barrel
    KP: Polymer Frame, 3.54"~3.6" Barrel, 2.53" Barrel (.380 ACP Models)
    PM: Polymer Frame, 3.1"~3.24" Barrel
    KT: Steel Frame, 3.965"~4.0" Barrel
    K: Steel Frame, 3.465"~3.5" Barrel
    M: Steel Frame, 3.0"~3.1" Barrel
    CW: Concealed Weapon, Polymer Frame, 3.565"~3.64" Barrel
    CM: Concealed Weapon, Polymer Frame, 3.0"~3.1" Barrel

    1st Three Numbers
    454: .45 ACP
    414: .40 S&W (with External Safety & LCI)
    404: .40 S&W
    919: 9mm (with External Safety & LCI)
    909: 9mm
    383: .380 ACP
    3823: .380 ACP (with LCI)

    4th Number
    0: Carbon Steel, Black Oxide*
    1: Carbon Steel, Nickel Finish*
    2: Carbon Steel, Black T Finish*
    3: Matte Stainless Steel
    4: Blackened Stainless Steel
    6: Polished Stainless Steel, Elite98*
    8: Polished Stainless Steel, Elite2003
    * Discontinued

    Letters at end
    L: Crimson Trace Laser Sight
    N: Tritium Night Sights
    NOVAK: Novak Low Profile Tritium Night Sights
    TP: Polymer Frame, 3.965"~4.04" Barrel
    KP: Polymer Frame, 3.54"~3.6" Barrel, 2.53" Barrel (.380 ACP Models)
    PM: Polymer Frame, 3.1"~3.24" Barrel
    KT: Steel Frame, 3.965"~4.0" Barrel
    K: Steel Frame, 3.465"~3.5" Barrel
    M: Steel Frame, 3.0"~3.1" Barrel
    CW: Concealed Weapon, Polymer Frame, 3.565"~3.64" Barrel
    CM: Concealed Weapon, Polymer Frame, 3.0"~3.1" Barrel

    1st Three Numbers
    454: .45 ACP
    414: .40 S&W (with External Safety & LCI)
    404: .40 S&W
    919: 9mm (with External Safety & LCI)
    909: 9mm
    383: .380 ACP
    3823: .380 ACP (with LCI)

    4th Number
    0: Carbon Steel, Black Oxide*
    1: Carbon Steel, Nickel Finish*
    2: Carbon Steel, Black T Finish*
    3: Matte Stainless Steel
    4: Blackened Stainless Steel
    6: Polished Stainless Steel, Elite98*
    8: Polished Stainless Steel, Elite2003
    * Discontinued

    Letters at end
    L: Crimson Trace Laser Sight
    N: Tritium Night Sights
    NOVAK: Novak Low Profile Tritium Night Sights

    I have a P380 and you"ll love it. Kahr triggers are the best and it's (almost) the only 380 with really good sights.
    Someone should make this post a sticky.
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    how about the letter for NYPD trigger..
    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    MAY GOD BLESS MUGGSY

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    Wow. I can't believe that this thread has not taken off on a tangent.

    Must be the Christmas spirit.

    To the OP - Check what is available to you in California, then make your decision.
    On the internet, the number of posts do not correlate to actual knowledge.
    The notch is supposed to be there as well as the bulge at the front of the frame!
    You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws.






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    Look at your budget and include buying enough magazines to have at least 3 and any upgrades in sights and or finishes. You should have at least 3 mags for a self-defense pistol. I have 7 to 12 or more for each Kahr. Mags fail or get lost in scuffles, so having two working mags is nice... like having a spare tire.
    The "C" models come with ONE magazine, a plastic front sight, and no dovetailed front sight. The slide is blockier... not finished as well, but it functions the same as the "premier" models.
    My first Kahr was the all stainless K9 and I found it too heavy for CCW... wearing shorts a lot in Florida, sometimes with no belt. I DO wear a gun belt now and like the security and better retention.
    I now have 6 polymer Kahrs, including 2 P380's. The P9 weighs about 8 ounces less than the K9 and is the same size. I did put flush-metal bases on my P9, PM9, and P40 for CCW and I carry the largest Kahr mag for each as a reload, which is a 7-round extended-grip mag for my PM45. I have DLC and SS slides and like both... and I prefer Night Sights on my CC pistols... and my larger ones as well.

    Just consider your budget and what's available, then think about what's most important to you in features and go for the one you can afford.

    Good luck and don't forget to watch the Kahr Take Down video and check out the new member links on lubrication and care of your intended purchase... BEFORE you take it apart and put it back together with bad consequences!

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family!

    Wynn

    PS: For magazines, check out Ivanhoe Warehouse first. They show whether they have any in stock, charge some of the lowest prices, have quick shipping, AND $5 shipping for your whole order by USPS Priority Mail. I've bought dozens from them:

    http://www.ivanhoeoutlet.com/shop/in...duct_list&c=43
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    I hope to have a lot more to say on the subject next month when my PM9 finally arrives .
    Suffolk County in the People's Republic of NY

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    Thumbs up Thanks Guys

    Thanks guys. This gives me some direction on my quest for which Kahr 9 I should get.

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    Thumbs up Thanks Wynn!

    You're a wealth of info Wynn. Thanks for all the good pointers and suggestions. I'll be checking all these things out.

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    Smile Thanks Muggsy!

    The chart is a BIG help! Thanks!!!

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