Listening to some of you guys, I guess I'm lucky and didn't know it. I'm 6'1" with a 41 waist. My CW9 vanishes under a 2X T-shirt. I only carry OWB in a Tagua Quick Draw Holster (tabs on the ends) and a heavy belt. I don't even know it's there. Maybe that's another way I can counter my doctor always telling me I need to loose some weight.