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    I agree with "Factory Defect" theory. Think about this: If it had been caused by anything to do with your gun, the bend in the case would bent over outward. If it was a factory defect while inserting the bullet into the case, the bend would be inward. That bullet appears to be inward and down inside the case. 1 in 200 would be .5 percent defects.

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    MAYBE.................the same reason that the shell casings ejected from Kahr's usually have that dent on the casing from the extractor.

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    Did your ammo stop at the extractor?
    “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”

    ― Dalai Lama XIV (as told to high school students.)

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    If you can post another picture with the case laying down but center the bent area in the picture so we can look for damage to the bullet. If your gun caused it the bullet would be gouged. If the factory caused it the bullet will not have a visable gouge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
    MAYBE.................the same reason that the shell casings ejected from Kahr's usually have that dent on the casing from the extractor.
    The extractor does not cause the flat dent on the fired case mouth. It is caused by the case rubbing the ejection port on it's way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeo74 View Post
    I agree with "Factory Defect" theory. Think about this: If it had been caused by anything to do with your gun, the bend in the case would bent over outward. If it was a factory defect while inserting the bullet into the case, the bend would be inward. That bullet appears to be inward and down inside the case.
    Perhaps difficult to see in the picture, but the bend is neither inward nor outward, it is just pinched. There is no fold of the brass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeo74 View Post
    1 in 200 would be .5 percent defects.
    There were 3 out of 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
    MAYBE.................the same reason that the shell casings ejected from Kahr's usually have that dent on the casing from the extractor.
    The extractor would be moving in the opposite direction when loading the round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeo74 View Post
    The extractor does not cause the flat dent on the fired case mouth. It is caused by the case rubbing the ejection port on it's way out.
    Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeo74 View Post
    If you can post another picture with the case laying down but center the bent area in the picture so we can look for damage to the bullet. If your gun caused it the bullet would be gouged. If the factory caused it the bullet will not have a visable gouge.
    There is visible gouge exactly opposite the deformation of the brass. I'll post a pic shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100percent View Post
    Did your ammo stop at the extractor?
    I'm sorry I don't understand the question, but the round was almost fully chambered and the slide was about 80% into battery.

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