when yes means yes

[knkali]

WOW so before a college kid gets a little he will need an attorney present, a notary, and a witness? Crazy...........
http://news.msn.com/us/california-ad...x-assault-rule

[downtownv]

Save your money and chock your chicken...

[jocko]

in Muggsy case, a little is what any college person would ever get. Just sayin. The only yes he would hear is YES that is really small isn't it...

[Bawanna]

If the semi willing partner doesn't speak (think farm animal here) is that a yes?

[berettabone]

Save your money and chock your chicken...

I prefer to choke the chicken....................if yours is of such enormity, that you have to chock it, you have my respect

[knkali]

If the semi willing partner doesn't speak (think farm animal here) is that a yes?

funny but the thrust(pun intended) of the law is that the absence of a no does not default to a yes. So I can see it now. "please sign this form that states you understand English, sign this form to indicate you are of sound mind, sign this form that indicates you are not under the influence, sign this form that you have concented to having sex" OK lets get these notarized and witnessed then we are good to go.

Don't get me wrong...rape is a bad thing, but hasn't this law gone too far--what kind of world are we creating here?

[Bawanna]

What's this thread have to do with chickens?

Pun received. Typical of California they are just adding mud to an already solid law on the books.

Saying no is the same as not saying yes. It's a muddy creek sometimes, often times a payback involved with a scorned female. Not always of course and I agree rape is a serious bad thing and the punishment can't be too severe in my book. Throw the key away or pull the plug. If absolutely proven circumstances exist.

[JohnR]

If the semi willing partner doesn't speak (think farm animal here) is that a yes?

I'm sure jocko will be along shortly to answer that.

If you don't teach your own kids to control their body and their primal urges, maybe your parenting skills aren't the best. I only have a 13 and a 3 year old, so what do I know. Other than the fact that I didn't treat my college campus like it was the Playboy mansion. If I could do it, anyone can.

[OldLincoln]

Hmmm, then unless a guy calls out YES!! in the throes of passion I suppose he can claim he didn't consent either. They both have to perform certain delicate physical efforts to have sex so who is raping whom? I can see where a defense attorney would certainly dig into this one.

My buddy was on a jury trying a rape case and after the woman told her story the defendant took the stand. He went step-by-step through the "performance" stating at each step "She didn't say no." That included each kiss, article of clothing, touch, nibble, etc. His testimony had quite an effect on the jurors (I imagine especially the men who could have voted by standing up).

[TheTman]

My room mate brought home this drunk gal one night, and they were all over each other in the living room, so I just went to bed to give them some privacy. I woke up the next morning to this ***** yelling at him and pitching a hissy fit, saying he raped her, and she was gonna call the police, and get her brothers to whup his ass and all kinds of crap. I told her she was all over my room mate the previous night, pretty aggressively, and it sure didn't look like rape to me, and I would testify to that in court. She was like I don't remember any of that happening. Anyway, he took her back to her car, and that was pretty much the end of it. Just goes to show how things go down sometimes.