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Thread: no licence to conceal carry? thoughts/opinions welcome

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    ^^ I just always have a problem with that word "require". A lot of the things we are so steadfast against started with well-meaning people determining that we need to make something mandatory. I take serious issue with anyone who doesn't get training but it still should be their choice. I'm really in favor of states' removing CCW lic requirements...in the spirit of individual freedom and our Constitution. But as muggsy and others put it a long time ago: with freedom comes great responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b4uqzme View Post
    But as muggsy and others put it a long time ago: with freedom comes great responsibility.
    Without a modicum of required training I can see righteous use of force being drawn out by the DA and possible folks being prosecuted that might not have been before.
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    I grew up in WV. It's a gun friendly state. People still feed their families by hunting. But several hunters die every year because so much land is privately owned and unofficially shared, so it's easy for inexperienced hunters to go out without training.

    So, while I'm sympathetic to the 2A argument of not requiring training to carry, I lost a couple of classmates to hunting accidents, and I know much I've learned in my 10 hours of post CC training. I feel better as a citizen knowing carriers are trained.

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    Do you remember when people did the right thing, because it was the right thing to do?

    I long for a place that does not require licensing or training, but people seek training voluntarily because it's the right thing to do. It's a fantasy, I know. Too bad we put government in a position of having to legislate common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRP View Post
    Do you remember when people did the right thing, because it was the right thing to do?

    I long for a place that does not require licensing or training, but people seek training voluntarily because it's the right thing to do. It's a fantasy, I know. Too bad we put government in a position of having to legislate common sense.
    Agreed. Besides, firearm training is freaking fun as hell! I'm at distinct risk for addiction here. I may need an intervention by summer's end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottM View Post
    Agreed. Besides, firearm training is freaking fun as hell! I'm at distinct risk for addiction here. I may need an intervention by summer's end.
    You can get firearms training without having to obtain a permit to exercise a right.
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    Firearms training should not be mandated, it should be highly recommended for everyone. You may not agree, but thats OK, you have that right too.
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    I long for a day when common sense returns and folks will know that they need training and will seek it and those that don't need it cause they have fully functioning brains and were brought up properly by parents with fully functioning brains don't have too.
    My only issue with training is the puffed up resumes and dominant alpha male attitudes of most instructors that probably got certificates online from an equally questionable resume puffed up dominatn alpha male.
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    It takes a strong, confident personality to be a sheepdog. I suspect you just described most of the guys you work with.
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    I wonder. If there were no laws requiring the registration and a driving test to operate a safe car would you feel safe driving across town or walking down the street?
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