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Thread: Scary... had my first jam on my CM9 after 600~+ rounds

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    When I got a couple of 7 round mags from a kahrtalk seller they would not feed reliably at all, not even when loading the chamber after inserting a mag.
    I disassembled them, tweaked the feed lips and lightly sanded the magazine followers and inside of feed lips, then cleaned and lubed them. Now they run fine with a types of ammo.
    Like previous posters have said, anything mechanical can hiccup once in a while. Try shooting several more mags of your defense ammo using that mag. It could be that particular round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyC View Post
    When I got a couple of 7 round mags from a kahrtalk seller they would not feed reliably at all, not even when loading the chamber after inserting a mag.
    I disassembled them, tweaked the feed lips and lightly sanded the magazine followers and inside of feed lips, then cleaned and lubed them. Now they run fine with a types of ammo.
    Like previous posters have said, anything mechanical can hiccup once in a while. Try shooting several more mags of your defense ammo using that mag. It could be that particular round.
    Little doubt in my mind the 7-rd magazines are substandard. That is where the tweaking, above, comes into play, if you are willing to put up with it. If not, just buy a most ugly Glock, or a 92FS or a SIG, S&W, etc., or stick with the 6-rd mags.

    In any event your points are well-taken and it should also be mentioned there's a procedure recited in last paragraph of 'Proper Prep of a New Kahr' entitled ' Magazine Fix'. It contains a simple way to test one's magazines from the factory, and how the user can sand the followers to pass the test recited therein. It's a bit ambiguous as to where, but when one finds photos of the fix in the gb4491 thread, it shows the areas clearly, though more than is needed to remedy nose-dives. The photos are 3rd and 4th sets down in post #2 of this thread:

    http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...sues-and-fixes
    Last edited by kahrinca; 08-25-2015 at 12:28 PM.

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    I just use FrogLube. Gave it two heat treatments prior to first range trip.

    Gun has not been cleaned after two range sessions and 257 rounds. The only thing that I will do now is take a Q-tip and rub it inside the slide and on the feed ramp to get it shiny again. Dependent upon how it looks, I may add a bit of the FL paste cold. I do use a BoreSnake on the barrel while it's still warm.

    LATER UPDATE: Actually wiped components down with paper towel and Q-tips. Gun is now pretty clean. Also applied a bit of cold FL paste to the weapon last night.

    The images below depict condition of the firearm components after 257 rounds without wipe-down or cleaning:










    Last edited by kahrinca; 08-27-2015 at 01:27 PM. Reason: updated

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    I carry PM9 with 6 rd mag for concealment advantage. Recently bought 2 of the 7 rd. mags while on a trip, and finally got to test them when I got back home. Ran about 50 rounds or so through the two mags, firing and reloading each after 2-3 rounds fired. Made sure I had one in the pipe before shooting most (as in a tactical reload) but also sling-shotted or slide-released as with an emptied mag reload situation. No problems. I do remember, tho, reading lots of complaints about the 7 round extended magazine "nose-dive" problem. Seemed really problematic with the 7 rd. extended mag used in PM9's. Maybe I'm lucky, but I do like those extra two rounds for back-up reloads. Is this still a problem, Sept., 2016?
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    Just purchased my cm9 a few weeks ago. I ordered a second six round mag and thought about the 7 round mag. After reading these posts if I buy a third mag it will be another six round mag. Thanks for the education everyone. Love this forum.

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    sorry to hear that! I shot a IDPA match yesterday (107rds.) all my mags are extnd.7s because of better grip, w/lakeside followers, loaded w/6rds.,no FTFs,FTEs,etc. with either short 6s or long 7s. for grins, I polished the barrel,hood,and ramp w/2000 grit paper then Flitz just because it looks nice.

    my CM9 has between 1500/2500 fired as this is my EDC which I practice/compete with in IDPA BUG; my match ammo is Fed.115 gr.alum. case,vel.1150 fps.stated on box, my critical defense is 1145 fps. no failures with either.

    I bore snake after every session and tear down/lube about every 300 rds.

    NRA LIFER
    IDPA BELEIVER

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    may I ask what brand ammo you use? I shot the Wisconsin State IDPA Match (200+rds.) using 115 gr.Fed.aluminum case and thought my CM was dirty until I saw your pics.

    not trying to be critical,just curious.

    BTW, I use Q tip to oil the barrel,hood, rails, guide rails, guide rod,slide opening for barrel muzzle and inside of slide above barrel. CM runs like its' hair on fire.

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    IDPA BELEIVER

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