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Thread: .380 Federal HST Disappointing Test

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    I don't place much stock in ballistic gel tests. I believe in autopsy reports. When hollow points plug they behave much like ball ammunition. Ball ammunition has been responsible for more autopsy reports than all of the hollow point ammunition combined, but then again it's been in use since 1908. Over penetration beats under penetration every time it's tried.
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    I've read that Hornady Critical Defense is the approved LAPD .380 round as well.
    Don't personally own a .380.
    Would likely go for FMJs in that caliber.
    S&W 342 ti (11.1 oz) Centennial is my pocket pistol.
    It's 13.5 oz loaded with five 135 gr 38 Special +P Speer GDHP Short Barrel.
    The Speer GDHP SB round performs remarkably well in FBI Protocol testing.
    Last edited by Barth; 11-21-2015 at 08:26 AM.

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    I currently run CCI Lawman 90g HP ammunition in my .380s. It is the old version of Speer Gold Dot 90g HP. I've anchored a lot of raccoons and possums with the Lawman ammunition and put down one deer that was hit by a car.

    I've never tested the ammunition in 10% gelatin, but everything I've shot to date stopped moving right away.

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    I had a few issues with the HST in my MK...............I haven't figured out whether it was me or the ammo. Had a few really bad FTF's/jams. I've been carrying Critical Defense all summer and into the fall. I do know that the Critical Defense round is shorter than the HST. Because I feel that the HST length may be causing some issues, I'll stick with the Hornady for now. As far as ammo goes, I would have no problem carrying HST in any other firearm.

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    I've got some of this ordered for my MAK.
    It looks a little hot for the surplus gun.
    But I'm thinking a limited quantity with a 21 lbs Wolff spring might be OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barth View Post
    I've got some of this ordered for my MAK.
    It looks a little hot for the surplus gun.
    But I'm thinking a limited quantity with a 21 lbs Wolff spring might be OK.
    the Mak is a tank, never seen one blown yet. shoot it like u stole it.
    . My PM9 has over 40,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    Quote Originally Posted by jocko View Post
    the Mak is a tank, never seen one blown yet. shoot it like u stole it.
    Thanks Jocko!
    I respect your opinion and definitely want to shoot the Mak like I stole it - LOL!
    Merry Christmas BTW

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    BTW the Underwood Mak 9mm +P XTP ammo is now sold out...
    Glad I pick up 4 boxes - LOL!

    I've seen chrono numbers between 1150-1200 from a Mak PM.

    Technical Information
    • Caliber: 9x18mm (9mm Makarov)
    • Bullet Weight: 95 Grain
    • Bullet Style: Jacketed Hollow Point
    • Case Type: Brass

      Ballistics Information:
    • Muzzle Velocity: 1150 fps
    • Muzzle Energy: 279 ft. lbs.

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