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Thread: Why non-chlorinated cleaner?

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    Default Why non-chlorinated cleaner?

    I have used break cleaner for years for most everything, but I always just used the standard stuff. Since I read it on here I have switched over to the non-chlorinated type. Why the non-chlorinated?

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    Safer for your liver, and the ozone layer.

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    Ahh, and I thought it had to do with materials. My fatty liver will appreciate the change.

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    I think the chlorinated can melt plastic stuff mor easily.
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    ∆∆∆ This.
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    Non Chlorinated brake cleaner was forced on the industry by the government as part of the effort to reduce VOC's, Volatile Organic Compounds in consumer products. The issue for those was the ozone layer. The other issue, as in Trichloroethane, dry cleaning compounds and other chlorinated chemicals etc was toxicity, particularly to the liver but also the brain. Chlorinated chemicals are also harder on plastics. I'm no chemist but I remember this from my days with LPS lubricant and cleaner products several years ago.

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    Default Metal Failure - Stress Corrosion Cracking

    When my wife's engagement ring lost one of the prongs holding the stone in, our jeweler asked whether she swam often in pools, because the chlorinated water causes the metal to become brittle, and the prongs to fail. He said jewelers take heat for shoddy work, when it's actually a chemically-induced failure, and advised her to remove her gold alloy jewelry before entering chlorinated water.

    http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/
    " . . . is there anything we should avoid? Of course – any product that contains chlorine compounds. These compounds, usually referred to as chlorinated esters, were used as boundary additives for many years. As boundary lubes they actually work pretty well; the problem is that they promote a phenomenon known as “stress corrosion cracking” (SCC). Essentially, SCC creates microscopic pits and cracks that, under heat and pressure, widen to become noticeable cracks – and sometimes, even broken parts!

    (One major gun manufacturer actually had barrels fall off of their revolvers. An investigation ensued, and they found that the chlorinated esters used in their machining oils was causing stress cracking in barrel threads. When combined with the gun owners’ use of cleaning and lube compounds containing chlorinated esters, the barrels simply sheared off at the weakest part – the threads. Like most aircraft makers, the company learned to forbid chlorine-carrying compounds on the manufacturing floor, to prevent a recurrence.) . . ."

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    Man back in the day when I was a young feller I worked for a company that built snack food packaging machinery and we used Trichloroethane all the time for cleaning grease off parts and tools and that stuff worked great but nobody knew it was dangerous....Oh well, too late to worry about it now, I'm 59 and still kickin just not so high and hard.....

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    We could be bros separated at birth, I just slipped in to 62 week ago Friday. Felt the same as the day before, pretty lousy, but still vertical in a sitting sort of way and playing the game hard as I can.
    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
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    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
    Cue sound of Head slap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiflydive View Post
    Non Chlorinated brake cleaner was forced on the industry by the government as part of the effort to reduce VOC's, Volatile Organic Compounds in consumer products. The issue for those was the ozone layer. The other issue, as in Trichloroethane, dry cleaning compounds and other chlorinated chemicals etc was toxicity, particularly to the liver but also the brain. Chlorinated chemicals are also harder on plastics. I'm no chemist but I remember this from my days with LPS lubricant and cleaner products several years ago.
    I worked in an Industrial Supply warehouse for about 10 years. I've handled 100's of cases of LPS, think there was a 1, 2, and maybe a 3. Had gallons and 5 gallons too if memory serves. I loved the stuff.

    We also had WD 40 of course, never had much use for it except for squeaky screen door hinges or starting fires.

    Funny story, we had a paint room, big room with one of them doors with a fusible link in case of a fire the link broke and the door closed it off.

    We had a skid of paint come in broken and paint all over the place. The president who was a great guy and was always one of the boys was out cleaning it up along with the general manager who shadowed the president as only general managers can.

    Both heavy smokers. I went in pulling an order and was about knocked over by the fumes of the paint thinner or whatever they were using. President pops a smoke in his mouth and grabs his lighter, I threw myself out the door while yelling don't do that. They walked to the door and asked what was wrong. I said step out on the dock for a few minutes and then walk back in that room.
    They were quite enlightened and the smoking lamp was extinguished.
    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
    Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
    Cue sound of Head slap.

    RIP Muggsy & TMan

    "If you are a warrior legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that JOCKO will not come today."

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