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    Default Fed. .38 HST

    Does anyone have any info on this ? Bullet is seated flush in the case like a wadcutter. Reloading would be a b*#ch

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    Never heard of it myself but it is an interesting concept. Does do away with a lot of the air space in the case.

    Wonder hos it shoots. If the sample is any indication it seems to expand well.

    I doubt we'll be able to get any to hand load anytime soon. But maybe so.
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    Id like to see how it performs out of a snub nose j frame. From what I have read (no personal experience) expansion out of a snubnose is what has to be watched.

    that could be my new summer carry load if it really expands that well.
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    Wow, never seen that one before. The bullet is seated all the way?

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    Cool Snubbie HST

    Looks like it's real and very interesting.
    I've been running Speer GDHP Short Barrel 135 gr +P in my S&W 342 ti snubbie.
    But really like Federal HST in my Semi-Autos
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    Does anyone here remember these loads from the 70's

    148 gr. Hornady HBWC seated backwards. & a 125 gr. jacketed soft lead H.P. with steel ball in the cavity




    Then company IIRC named Scorpian added a post. That was the start of the Fed. Hydra Shock.
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    I can't find the new HST's anywhere. But I'm looking

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    It's basically a hollow point wadcutter bullet. Wadecutters were popular with PPC revolver competitions. I've actually reloaded several 148gr wadcutters and they are very accurate. Elmer Keith was a big fan of turning the flat, front side of the wadcutter bullet and seating it backwards, creating a hollow point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Sheepdog View Post
    It's basically a hollow point wadcutter bullet. Wadecutters were popular with PPC revolver competitions. I've actually reloaded several 148gr wadcutters and they are very accurate. Elmer Keith was a big fan of turning the flat, front side of the wadcutter bullet and seating it backwards, creating a hollow point.
    That's what this is, Kieth recipe. IIRC the ideal charge was about 5.0 gr of unique for about 850 fps. They expanded to about .060" but shallow penetration into water jugs. Ballistic gelatin wasn't used / invented yet.

    Then Scorpion took it a step further and added a post. Then IIRC someone else named Budachowsky (sp ?) used a steel post. And again IIRC it was used by prison guards in NYS prisons. It was so long ago I could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Sheepdog View Post
    It's basically a hollow point wadcutter bullet. Wadecutters were popular with PPC revolver competitions. I've actually reloaded several 148gr wadcutters and they are very accurate. Elmer Keith was a big fan of turning the flat, front side of the wadcutter bullet and seating it backwards, creating a hollow point.
    Jacketed hollow base wadcutter, wonder why it time so long for someone to invent it. The HBWC loaded backwards is awesome at close range.
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    Makes me wonder what would happen if someone simply shortened a .38 case and inserted a normal projectile and standard powder load. You'd get a carbon ring in the cylinder, but you do in a .357 chamber anyway. If you can shoot a .22 Short in a .22LR cylinder, why not?

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