well well well another school mass shooting...

[Bawanna]

I think some of us just don't give a **** Bawanna. You and I probably fit into that category. If its my time to go I might as well make it worth something.

You could be onto something there. Think you might have nailed it.

Full metal garb???? Maybe they thought it was Halloween in Florida?

[berettabone]

All departments and cities are different I suppose but I don't think more back ground checks would help much.

Although it certainly seems like whoever picked the members of that dept in Florida didn't do a good job.

There's nothing in a back ground check that will indicate what an officer will do in a dangerous situation. In fact they most likely don't know themselves until they actually look the elephant in the eye. There's a survival instinct in all of us. Some just push it further back than others.
Some are completely foolish risk takers, I'm probably in that category according to my coworkers who are actually cops unlike myself a mere office puke with an attitude. They all agree though that if they are in a bad spot, tell me where they are, they know I'm coming. No rules of engagement for office pukes.

And how do you frequently describe your coworkers? Violets I believe????

[JohnR]

I don't know if the teacher was hallucinating, or there was something going on we'll never be told about. Where'd the "garb" go when the shooting was over? Is it in the police evidence vault? Alongside JFK's second gunman's shooting gloves?

[berettabone]

It's already a given that 5 people will see the same scenario and see 5 different things. It's hard to remember when your crapping your pants............................................. .....

[JohnR]

It's already a given that 5 people will see the same scenario and see 5 different things. It's hard to remember when your crapping your pants............................................. .....

That is indeed a proven fact. Our daughter even did a science project that supports that theory.

[yqtszhj]

There's nothing in a back ground check that will indicate what an officer will do in a dangerous situation. In fact they most likely don't know themselves until they actually look the elephant in the eye. There's a survival instinct in all of us. Some just push it further back than others.
Some are completely foolish risk takers, I'm probably in that category according to my coworkers who are actually cops unlike myself a mere office puke with an attitude. They all agree though that if they are in a bad spot, tell me where they are, they know I'm coming. No rules of engagement for office pukes.

I had to sit through some active shooter training led by a career officer that had done SWAT and executive security detail and he said the same thing. In an event some will act, some will freeze, some will cr@p their pants, literally. You just never know till it happens and sometimes its too late. Maybe that makes a good reason for former active duty military being good candidates for officers.

[Bawanna]

Berettabone, the violets take up much space, food and water, with a couple exceptions I don't consider them co workers. Some I would die trying to save , most I'd have to contemplate a bit. As JohnH so eloquently stated I don't give a *** really but I guess I do have standards.
I'm talking about the folks in blue, wearing gun belts and walking with a swagger. I once taped a block on one of my wheels to create a swagger, didn't work to good.
And yqtszhj, even warriors will crap their pants literally even going in to do what warriors do. This is also a proven fact. In many briefings this has come out.
In one a recall one fella couldn't figure why everyone else crapped their pant and he didn't. He then recalled that he had visited the latrine just prior to the call.
After that he called it a tactical dump. This is not to say that it occurs every time or even more often than not, but it does happen.

I know I probably would for sure everytime. Just have to remember stuff happens, it's just stuff, ya know.

[JohnR]

"Tactical dump" - that's what I do before a long road trip.

[Bawanna]

Me too, usually part way through the trip 75 miles from the next rest stop.

I think I need an intestinal transplant.

[knkali]

Tactical dump....man I got a bad case of diarrhea right now. Left over pizza I think did it...OK back to the thread.