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    I thought that was poor planning with that dudes back ground.

    I have an AR bought it last August. Haven't shot it yet. It's for the the black helicopters are hovering or Pelosi and ODonnell come to collect my babies.
    I have several 30 and a couple 20 round PMags all loaded, easy to grab. Gun is in the safe, figure when they come to collect I'll have advance warning.

    For everyday miscreants I stick with the 1911. The biggest challenge is the chair. Really no such thing as concealment or cover.

    Now that its just me and the missus, figure we'll hunker down and wait to dispel boarders.
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    I have 2 firearms loaded at my disposal, and the wifey has one. that makes 23 shots total. If we need more than that, I guess we're SOL. We have a small home, and know every square inch, even in the dark. We will stay put and give whomever the opportunity, with warnings, to leave quietly. If they choose to ignore this warning, then the castle doctrine in my state will give me the lawful permission to kill them. I worry more about the home invasions, than someone just straight breaking in. I always keep one handy in the living room while watching tv or whatever. Always have a firearm handy, and you'll be good in this life. Rifles and shotguns definitely have a place, but in a home, if it's not right by you, not the best defense in closed quarters in my opinion. Now, if you could use your shotgun/rifle right when they stepped in to your home, then they could be quite useful.

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    I'd like to know what home invasion threat can't be stopped with a hand gun. Grizzly bears? Ok, got me there.

    I've never understood any civilian application of the idea "use my pistol to fight my way to my rifle." Who is in between my and my rifle? How did they find out where my rifle is? If I stop them with a hand gun, why do I need the rifle?

    I thought the saying was just a cute way of saying your rifle is a more powerful fighting tool than your hand gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
    I'd like to know what home invasion threat can't be stopped with a hand gun. Grizzly bears? Ok, got me there.

    I've never understood any civilian application of the idea "use my pistol to fight my way to my rifle." Who is in between my and my rifle? How did they find out where my rifle is? If I stop them with a hand gun, why do I need the rifle?

    I thought the saying was just a cute way of saying your rifle is a more powerful fighting tool than your hand gun.
    But isn’t that the point? That we have no way of knowing what threat may present itself? So, if I have tools at my disposal, shouldn’t I make them accessible and have a plan for using them? Just in case?

    I’m fishing for valid reasons not to use a rifle for home defense. So far the over penetration issue seems to be the legitimate concern. And that’s only for some people who would rather risk failure vs. the remote chance they might shoot their kids through the wall. I’m not criticising. That could make sense. In my case I can afford to be better prepared.

    I’m also interested in anyone who feels a rifle is a good idea. And if they have any tips for doing it well. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnR View Post

    I thought the saying was just a cute way of saying your rifle is a more powerful fighting tool than your hand gun.
    That could be.
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    My nightstand gun is a S&W M&P 9mm, with a tactical light on the rail, 16 + 1, and a spare 16 rd mag. It lives in a biometric safe.

    If I'm not in bed, my EDC is on my person. I also have a home security system with a panic button within arm's reach of my bed.

    I live in a quiet residential neighborhood surrounded by good neighbors. The police department is 2 blocks away, and the only 24 hr donut shop in town is 2 blocks in the other direction.

    I feel pretty secure, and I think I can hold out until help arrives. I really see no need to be "better armed" than if I'm out and about, but in just a few seconds, I can oblige.

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    It's been a long time back but I remember seeing bed head boards with flip open compartments that held a rifle. Seems like they were secure until the user hit a discreet button to open. Also seen racks where a rifle or shotgun hung on a little rack on the bed frame rail. The cover hanging over the side hid it.

    The downside is if you need it somewhere or sometime when your not in bed, like a rabid dog outside you have to run to the bedroom for your rifle. I guess that scenario might not be quite as urgent as an intruder unless of course the rabid dog is attacking family or friends.......so many scenarios.

    There are many many options for rifle and I'm assuming your talking AR style rifle. Person could even use frangible. I'm not sure what the penetration on soft tissue or clothing is but it has to ruin your day. It wouldn't do much damage after going through a wall for sure.

    I guess ideally we need to have the tools available and grab the one we think works best depending on what's happening.

    I generally always have a hand gun on my person at all times.

    I remember an appropriate true story that might apply here.

    A few years ago, met a friend/relative of a friend over at our vacation spot. Turns out he's a avid hunter and shooter. Very fixed in his way as some shooters are.

    Anyhow we're sitting at a picnic table talking guns and he said he preference for defense was a shotgun. No need for a handgun etc, etc, etc,

    So while I hated to do it, and admittedly I don't usually wear my gun at the lake but we'd just got there and I hadn't stored it yet.

    Anyhow, my son who's a rather big boy is walking towards us. So I told the guy my son had heard he was a sexual deviant, child molester and he was coming to pound him into the ground like a tent stake. I laid my Cbob on the table and asked him where his shotgun was.

    Funny thing, he now owns several hand guns and has a whole new interest level in them. Imagine that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed M View Post
    I feel pretty secure, and I think I can hold out until help arrives. I really see no need to be "better armed" than if I'm out and about, but in just a few seconds, I can oblige.
    Thanks. But at home I don’t have the burden of concealment. That makes a rifle an option as far as I can tell. And it sounds like you might agree? That you can reach additional firepower “in just a few seconds”?

    Out and about I may have more opportunity and options not to engage vs at home. Awareness and avoidance are a significant part of my “out and about” strategy.
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    Ever since I bought my first bedroom furniture, the headboard had to have a sliding or opening panel of some sort on both sides. This one pulls down from the top and holds a bunch of things, but my Glock 21 SF and several spare mags are there, along with a strong LED flashlight, and a tube of KY Jelly... oops... Chapstick and so on. My wife's compartment has a light, G43 and extra mags, as well as a panic button for the house alarm system. I carry my P380 around on or near me, and any place I'm sitting there's another Glock with "standard capacity" mags in .40 S&W or .45 ACP. My Kahrs are for concealed carry under "normal" circumstances.

    I still have my Mech Tech Carbine with the dedicated G21 SF lower, but I've never fired it, or committed to it. I still need to shoot that thing and set it up for home defense... more firepower with a Kriss 30-round mag and rifle-type sighting. I'd still rather have a .308 for real defense against anything but an armored vehicle. I figure that I'm f@˘ked if it comes to that.

    I think that my Ruger 1022 with a great scope and the LASER fore end would be effective for some threats and easier to carry with a LOT of ammo if I were bugging out, but I have no destination.

    I got the Mech Tech/G21 because I love the .45 acp, but wanted a better sighting system with a bit more range, then I decided that I really needed a .308, but haven't been able to afford one, even though I just saw a Keltec RFB at the last gun show for $1300! That used to be my dream .308.

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    The thought process involved in carrying concealed also applies to your home.

    Unless you are defending others at home, your best strategy may be to flee, and live to fight another day.

    I live alone now (usually), and choose to stand my ground here. I rely on my training and skills to come out on top.

    The worst part of messing with an old guy is the fact that life in prison doesn't hoid as much sway as it used to.

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