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Thread: Cerakote a "Beater" or not?

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    Default Cerakote a "Beater" or not?

    I just aquired a well carried, not so loved officer/compact 1911 Iver Johnson Thrasher. I once had the ss version, which I polished the snot out of, that I had enjoyed thoroughly and regretted getting rid of. So I got this carbon framed/slide version on the cheap (traded a Shield I had $275 into) due to it's appearance. It does run well though, with the box I ran through it.
    So here's my question...I normally would only buy a "rough" gun if it were all stainless or stainless/alloy as I can restore those myself, but again the deal made me jump on this one. Should I spend a bit having it proffesionally cerakoted, knowing I'll then have more in it than it's ever going to be worth, or just try to abate oxidation and keep it as a "beater". I do like the idea of having so little into it, but also do like purtying them up. What would you do?
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    Doesn't look all that bad to me, I never heard of those but it looks good. I think if it was at my house (where it would be most welcome) I'd leave it as is.
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    You might try hitting it with a good cold blue.
    I bought a slightly trashed TRP with the thought to refinish it, but after wiping it down with a cold blue found that I could live with the results:


    There are quite a few spray on finishes that are DIY friendly. Some (like Cerakote) require require baking to cure, others air cure (Duracoat comes in a two part rattle can).
    I used Wheeler Cerama Coat on the frame of this P229 (painting right over the anodized finish):


    You could also rust blue it.
    For rust blue I use this: https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...-prod8795.aspx
    This Handi Rifle's receiver was done with it:


    Personally, I'd abrasive blast then parkerize it.
    I've gotten good results with parkerizing solution from https://www.duracoatfirearmfinishes....ns/parkerizing
    This Colt was done with it:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawanna View Post
    Doesn't look all that bad to me, I never heard of those but it looks good. I think if it was at my house (where it would be most welcome) I'd leave it as is.
    Well thanks for that input! Just fyi, they are a SAM (Phillipines) manufactured gun, not unlike ATI, Rock Island, etc etc. Considered to be of a bit better fit & finish than the other "Phillipino's", hence some being closer to Colt Defender prices than their counter parts. As with others, they do require a Colt or Kimber recoil assembly pretty early on as the flange part of the guide rods are known to beat themselves up rather quickly. I did get 600 rounds out of that first Thrasher though before noticing it was due to fail. Thanks again man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gb6491 View Post
    You might try hitting it with a good cold blue.
    I bought a slightly trashed TRP with the thought to refinish it, but after wiping it down with a cold blue found that I could live with the results:



    There are quite a few spray on finishes that are DIY friendly. Some (like Cerakote) require require baking to cure, others air cure (Duracoat comes in a two part rattle can).
    I used Wheeler Cerama Coat on the frame of this P229 (painting right over the anodized finish):


    You could also rust blue it.
    For rust blue I use this: https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...-prod8795.aspx
    This Handi Rifle's receiver was done with it:


    Personally, I'd abrasive blast then parkerize it.
    I've gotten good results with parkerizing solution from https://www.duracoatfirearmfinishes....ns/parkerizing
    This Colt was done with it:


    Regards,
    Greg
    WOW Greg!!! Just WOW! You just opened up a whole new world for me. I looked at that rust blue's instructions and sounds like something even my dumb self can accomplish. All of the one's you've done look great, but seeing the Handi and now knowing whats involved has me wanting to jump in. Never knew that stuff existed! Mucho Gracias!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gb6491 View Post
    You might try hitting it with a good cold blue.
    I bought a slightly trashed TRP with the thought to refinish it, but after wiping it down with a cold blue found that I could live with the results:


    There are quite a few spray on finishes that are DIY friendly. Some (like Cerakote) require require baking to cure, others air cure (Duracoat comes in a two part rattle can).
    I used Wheeler Cerama Coat on the frame of this P229 (painting right over the anodized finish):


    You could also rust blue it.
    For rust blue I use this: https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...-prod8795.aspx
    This Handi Rifle's receiver was done with it:


    Personally, I'd abrasive blast then parkerize it.
    I've gotten good results with parkerizing solution from https://www.duracoatfirearmfinishes....ns/parkerizing
    This Colt was done with it:


    Regards,
    Greg
    Your work always ways turns out real nice. I think thatís 2 parkerizing jobs youíve show, one on a RIA 1911 I think. That blue to black EAA was nice too.
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    That Colt sings! They all turned out super nice, no surprise there.

    I got some of the parkerizing solution you recommended, still working on a blasting setup. Kind of on a back burner for the moment.
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    What medium would you guys blast with? I un-cerakoted a M&P one time to polish and man was it rough! Looked like the p.o. had blasted it with steel shot! Once the cerakote top layers were off, I found orange underneath. (Dumb dumb put so many layers on that it would not even chamber a round. The extractor would not budge, so it wouldn't slip around the casing.) My geuss was he used auto body filler to fill in the craters he made. That slide took me longer to polish than any gun I've ever done! I know with cars the good guys use stuff like walnut shells. What about on a gun?

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    I'll have to defer to Greg or others as I've not done much blasting yet. I did a High Power that apparently was coated and once the coating got blasted the original finish was not bad at all so I just stopped.
    I didn't have a proper cabinet and the blast gun I think was a piece of junk. It worked for that one but what a mess.
    Goggles and face shield for sure if you don't got a proper cabinet.
    http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
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    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
    Cue sound of Head slap.

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    Walnut shells are good, glass beads work well, both should be used in a blast box! Places like Harbor Freight have small, inexpensive versions. Given a small air compressor, a small oven, airbrush, and small spray gun you will be able to do all kinds of small polishing/refinishing projects!

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