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    One positive of the death pronouncement of the 40S&W is the availability of some really nice used guns for not much cash. Even new ones: I just bought a PM40 with night sights for $350.

    Much of the move back to 9mm is based on the ammo cost for the smaller brass case with less powder and a lighter bullet. This is an issue for agencies buying thousands of rounds, but it really isn’t an issue if you are a reloader and only buy factory SD ammo. The other part of the equation is faster recovery between shots for relatively inexperienced shooters who only go the range when they have to.

    I resisted buying a 40 for two decades, and only started moving toward it as the rest of the world is moving away. I can handle the recoil fine. The first shot time is the same regardless of caliber, and it’s the first shot that matters most. The smaller the caliber, the more you are relying on the bullet technology to perform perfectly. Don’t forget that the same technology advances that have been applied to the 9mm have been applied to the bigger bullets as well.

    As long as they are still selling ammo for it at Walmart it’s a long way from dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkins45 View Post
    One positive of the death pronouncement of the 40S&W is the availability of some really nice used guns for not much cash. Even new ones: I just bought a PM40 with night sights for $350.

    Much of the move back to 9mm is based on the ammo cost for the smaller brass case with less powder and a lighter bullet. This is an issue for agencies buying thousands of rounds, but it really isn’t an issue if you are a reloader and only buy factory SD ammo. The other part of the equation is faster recovery between shots for relatively inexperienced shooters who only go the range when they have to.

    I resisted buying a 40 for two decades, and only started moving toward it as the rest of the world is moving away. I can handle the recoil fine. The first shot time is the same regardless of caliber, and it’s the first shot that matters most. The smaller the caliber, the more you are relying on the bullet technology to perform perfectly. Don’t forget that the same technology advances that have been applied to the 9mm have been applied to the bigger bullets as well.

    As long as they are still selling ammo for it at Walmart it’s a long way from dead.
    .40 cal ammo will be available for longer than most of us will be around, IMO.

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    Our county deputies switched to the M&P 45's and they love them. When we went from Beretta's to Glocks we'd considered the Springfield XD, the M&P and the Glock. I wanted the M&P, firearms instructor wanted the XD, we went with the Glock because we couldn't get duty holsters for the others at that time.
    Even now it's easier to get holsters for Glock 9 and 40 than it is 45.
    The county guys can carry what they want as long as it's approved. Many carry 1911's since they made the switch.

    For awhile they couldn't, the hammer back was too intimidating to the sheep. Guess now they don't care.
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    Cue sound of Head slap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawanna View Post
    Our county deputies switched to the M&P 45's and they love them. When we went from Beretta's to Glocks we'd considered the Springfield XD, the M&P and the Glock. I wanted the M&P, firearms instructor wanted the XD, we went with the Glock because we couldn't get duty holsters for the others at that time.
    Even now it's easier to get holsters for Glock 9 and 40 than it is 45.
    The county guys can carry what they want as long as it's approved. Many carry 1911's since they made the switch.

    For awhile they couldn't, the hammer back was too intimidating to the sheep. Guess now they don't care.
    Speaking of which heard from jocko lately?
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    Not for awhile, I best sling some ca ca in his direction.
    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
    Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
    Cue sound of Head slap.

    RIP Muggsy & TMan

    "If you are a warrior legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that JOCKO will not come today."

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    Got a unusually quick response from Jocko and I quote. (I can't spell or write like him, not sure anyone can.))

    I’m here in komifornia at Mission hills visiting my brother. Headed home tomorrow.
    Please tell the forum that ol jocko is breaking in his new Road King anhadn’t Time time to Fokk with the forum!
    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
    Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
    Cue sound of Head slap.

    RIP Muggsy & TMan

    "If you are a warrior legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that JOCKO will not come today."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawanna View Post
    Got a unusually quick response from Jocko and I quote. (I can't spell or write like him, not sure anyone can.))

    I’m here in komifornia at Mission hills visiting my brother. Headed home tomorrow.
    Please tell the forum that ol jocko is breaking in his new Road King anhadn’t Time time to Fokk with the forum!
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