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Thread: P380 Ownership Review – 2nd Year

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    Default P380 Ownership Review – 2nd Year

    Since my last range report in March 2017, I was only able to get out to a range twice last year. My P380 sat for 16 months until shooting qualification for a CCW permit, and I’d like to mention that it performed well with only a couple of failure to feeds during one handed shooting. That was with zero cleaning and re-lubrication between range trips.

    Now as an everyday carry, I took it out to the range four months afterwards to test out a box of Hornady FTX Critical Defense. Before shooting it, I shot four magazines of Federal American Eagle FMJ, which ran perfectly through my gun from day one. When I switched to the Hornady, I ended up with two failures to feed, and at least half of the box of 25 failed to return to battery. Switching back to the Federal FMJ rounds, it performed perfectly with no issues.

    Also during these last two range trips, I was able to test out the MagGuts for one of my stock 7 round magazines. I had already converted my stock 6 round magazines. The 7 round appeared to work just as well, so I’ve decided to convert the rest.

    For the next trip, I plan to try out stainless steel guide rod that I bought second hand with some magazines and a holster some time ago. I’m also considering purchase of the Lakeline Striker for increased reliability.

    Overall, I’m enjoying the convenience of being able to pocket carry the P380. I find that it fits the best in jeans, and it also works well in khaki shorts. In my dress pants, it doesn’t feel as secure for pocket carry, possibly due to the lighter material. The same goes for gym shorts or similar type fabrics. I imagine that an IWB holster would work better for those articles of clothing.
    Last edited by Ray C; 01-03-2019 at 11:41 PM.

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    I would try going back to stock magazine springs and see if the issue of FTF continues. If it does, i would contact Kahr

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    It's most likely an issue with the extractor...check this out:


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    Thanks for including the magguts info. I’ve been pondering getting it for a couple of my carry guns. Most of the reviews you see are positive on magguts.
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    While I do believe the radiusing of the extractor hook to be excellent modification and a must, I also believe the excessive tension of the extractor to be the biggest problem.

    http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...80-first-shots

    Quote Originally Posted by flustercuck View Post
    It's most likely an issue with the extractor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by markman View Post
    While I do believe the radiusing of the extractor hook to be excellent modification and a must, I also believe the excessive tension of the extractor to be the biggest problem.

    http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...80-first-shots
    Agreed 100%

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    I installed a Lakeline striker in both my CW & CT380's along with MagGuts in all the mags for both pistols. I have also checked and reduced the extractor tension in all 3 of my current Kahrs, CW380, CT380 & CM9. All 3 were excessively high.

    Also during these last two range trips, I was able to test out the MagGuts for one of my stock 7 round magazines. I had already converted my stock 6 round magazines. The 7 round appeared to work just as well, so I’ve decided to convert the rest.

    For the next trip, I plan to try out stainless steel guide rod that I bought second hand with some magazines and a holster some time ago. I’m also considering purchase of the Lakeline Striker for increased reliability.

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    Thanks for the suggestions. After watching the linked video and reading the linked thread, it does look like the extractor tension on my P380 is likely the cause of my issues.

    In the interim before I can get to the extractor, I tried a small box of Federal 99gr HST and Federal 90gr hollow point ammo. Both feed with no issues. The 99g HST also had a significantly bigger kick to it compared to Federal FMJ.

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    FWIW, my P380 has been 100%...until today.

    I started with a box of Blazer FMJ, and it was perfect for about 40 rounds.

    Went to to Hornady XTP, and I got several FTF in a single box. Switched over to Underwood XTP +P, and it was again flawless.

    I'm thinking my P380 just doesn't like the Hornady rounds, but I'll need another range day just to make sure.

    But it doesn't surprise me that a gun this small with tolerances this tight is ammo-sensitive. And what works for one may not work for another. (Mine has loved the Critical Defense rounds.)

    p.s. Edited to add that I also had to shave down the guide rod pocket in my frame when I got home from the range, as the polymer has apparently developed some obstructions (I had a tough time even getting the gun apart). I had to do this with my PM9 and one of my CW380s, so the process was a familiar one. Funny though, I've never had to do this with any of my polymer guns from other manufacturers.

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