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Thread: Galloway Precision' Gallowglass Flat Faced Short Stroke Trigger for Kahr 9, 40 and 45

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    Gallowglass Flat Faced Short Stroke Trigger for Kahr 9, 40 and 45 Pistols

    I have received Galloway Precision's flat face trigger for Kahr 9, 40 and 45 pistols that I ordered earlier this week.
    They also call it a short stroke trigger, but that is a result of the over travel stop screw. Set correctly, that screw stops the trigger stroke right after the striker releases (the stock trigger has a bit of travel after the striker releases).

    Upon initial inspection, I found a cosmetic flaw on the side of the trigger and machining marks on the front and rear surfaces. The machining marks were not too objectionable, but I didn't like the flaw on the side of the trigger. I briefly thought of returning the trigger and looked at Galloway's return policy. They state "*100% money back (less shipping) on all our products is offered by us against failure of our components or just displeasure our products did not meet your expectations or end needs within the first 30 days. Buy and don't like it we will refund your purchase price minus shipping upon return, within 30 days of purchase of the complete unmodified parts in question, with the exception of Closeout products which All Sales are Final." Not bad, but I didn't feel like shelling out for shipping and making a trip to the post office, so I fixed what I didn't like. Please note that I made no effort to contact Galloway in regards to this.


    Filed, sanded, blasted, and beaded

    Here are some comparison photos:



    To be continued...
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    Galloway's installation video is quite good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvmBBQCd8b0

    I used a chopstick to lever the spring and spacer into place vice using a screwdriver as shown in the video. Position the leg of the spring that goes against the frame up high on the frame then push/lever the coil part down into place.

    OEM trigger:

    Gallowglass trigger:



    Thoughts:
    I like the trigger. My finger doesn't feel cramped on it as it does with the OEM trigger. I think my finger naturally falls into a better position on the flat trigger.

    Although finger placement is different, you still have Kahr's smooth long stroke trigger; pretty much unchanged if you decided to forego the overtravel screw (just back it out). I like the overtarvel stop myself, especially on my 45. However, it's not the best looking (IMO) and I don't know if I would use it on my PM9. I'd like to an option to buy one that doesn't have the hole with a slimmer profile....yep, just a plain flat face trigger, no short stroke talk needed


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    Great job of cleaning up that trigger! I'm not really sure about that set screw. Looks like after some use it would dig a pit into the polymer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobshouse View Post
    Great job of cleaning up that trigger! I'm not really sure about that set screw. Looks like after some use it would dig a pit into the polymer.
    Thanks
    I've since rounded and polished the end of that set screw. There's no mark on the frame (I've done quite bit of dry firing), but I'll check after I fire it. The trigger on my CZ Phantom has both over travel and pre-travel screws, there is practically no wear where they contact the polymer ( it's been shot quite a bit).

    Still, I'm on the fence about just screwing it in. The screw does not look as bad in hand as it does in photos, but my 45 releases the striker close to the end of the trigger's travel, so the over travel is pretty minimal even without the screw.

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    I put mine in yesterday. I REALLY dislike the amount of set screw that protrudes from the rear of the trigger. Might be a necessary evil..I don't know. On the plus side, I prefer the "feel" of the flat trigger right off the bat, in dry-firing. I'll get it to the range later this week and be back with a more complete report. At this point, there's very little reduction in the long trigger pull. Galloway only claims 10% reduction with the installation of the flat trigger and that's not much. They are claiming the significant reduction that some of us want (and some do not) will come with the installation of their new sear offering, after the first of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guido4198 View Post
    I put mine in yesterday. I REALLY dislike the amount of set screw that protrudes from the rear of the trigger. Might be a necessary evil..I don't know. On the plus side, I prefer the "feel" of the flat trigger right off the bat, in dry-firing. I'll get it to the range later this week and be back with a more complete report. At this point, there's very little reduction in the long trigger pull. Galloway only claims 10% reduction with the installation of the flat trigger and that's not much. They are claiming the significant reduction that some of us want (and some do not) will come with the installation of their new sear offering, after the first of the year.
    I've decided to forgo the over travel stop. It's just too unsightly and the cool factor out weighs the little reduction in over travel it provides in my gun. It's my understanding that there will be significantly more over travel with their upcoming sear, so the screw will probably be a necessary evil. I'm happy with the flat trigger and probably will pass on the sear. Still, I have the screw in the trigger if I should change my mind. The little rounding/polishing of the set screw makes it just about flush on both sides of the trigger when screwed in/out enough,


    Just been thinking that my 45 has come a long way since it's birth as a CW45 over 9 years ago


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    Quote Originally Posted by gb6491 View Post


    Just been thinking that my 45 has come a long way since it's birth as a CW45 over 9 years ago
    If that is your replacement frame for the short frame rail issue, then between the new frame, P45 slide, and trigger, youve got yourself a whole new gun Id say. That P45 slide sure is more appealing to the eye than a CW45 slide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yqtszhj View Post
    If that is your replacement frame for the short frame rail issue, then between the new frame, P45 slide, and trigger, youve got yourself a whole new gun Id say. That P45 slide sure is more appealing to the eye than a CW45 slide.
    You know, that is the replacement frame. I kind of forgot about that.
    I wasn't a big fan of the P45 slide when I bought my CW45, but I warmed up to the look over the years. The one on it now was part of a deal too good to pass up, plus I now have a nice stash of CW45 parts. I also like being able to use the sights Alphonse sells at Lakeline:


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    I really like those rounded U notch rear sights and that front sight has a very XS look to it which I'm very partial to.

    I might have to look him up for sights on my K9 and my PM 45 sights are getting weak but the beauty of the XS style is they work just fine with or without the night sight working.

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    I'm liking the flat trigger, but decided to reshape it a bit. I took some material off the backside while adjusting the profile ever so slightly. It doesn't look too much different in the photos below (actually kind of hard to see), but I'm really pleased with how it looks in person.
    I was going to point out the before and after, but it's a pretty subtle change...so let me know if you can tell which is the modified trigger. Thanks!

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