Thanks Wynn
Thanks Wynn
Well done, thank you. 1 mag ordered :-)
Here ya go:
YouTube - Installing a Kahr follower into a modified Metalform Officer's magazine.
Unfortunately, no 7-round capacity with the Kahr follower. This is becuase of the way the Kahr follower is shaped: the larger coil, 7 round spring will not work with it, so you need to use the Kahr spring. This will limit you to 6 rounds (I haven't played with trimming the Kahr spring yet).
BTW, (as I didn't put it in the video) to remove the follower and spring from the Metalform magazine:
Load four rounds and put something through the holes in the magazine body (same as in the video); remove the rounds, then shake/poke/wiggle/pull the follower out of the magazine. Now, put the magazine mouth up against something (so the spring doesn't fly out) and release the pressure on the magazine spring; once pressure is released, remove the spring from the magazine body.
Regards,
Greg
Not to hijack this thread, but it has been an inspiration to me. Last night I pulled out some of my 1911 magazines to experiment on my P45. I found out that my Wilson ETM 8 round magazine fit perfectly without modification to the magazine release or feed lips, however there was no slide lock. I then tried an 8 round Chip McCormick Power Mag, which snapped into place, but was a little tight at the top. After a little file work as described in this thread, I found that the Chip McCormick Power Mag snapped into place and created slide lock using its' Shooting Star follower.
I then took everything to the range today. The Wilson fed perfectly, however there was no slide lock, as previously mentioned. The Power Mag fed perfectly and created slide lock. Now I realize that both of these magazines are 8 rounders that stick out the bottom. But wait, there's more.
Chip McCormick makes a 7 round officers Match Grade magazine that would appear to be a flush fit with just a slight modification to the top of the magazine. When I returned home from the range I ordered 3 which I will modify.
I am cautiously optimistic. A P45 with a 7 round flush fit magazine that creates slide lock would be very cool. I'll report back with the results.
A six rounder might fit, but seven shouldn't fit flush. I've gotten 6 in the Kahr tube with metal followers. Look at Bawanna's post with pictures. He posted pic of 7, 8, and 10 rounders inserted into his PM45.... Oh, apples and oranges... Doh! Pee 45!
Never mind.
Wynn
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nwohsy,
Welcome to the forums!
Your input to this thread is most welcome. I really look forward to hearing how the Chip McCormick 7 round officer's magazines work out.
I tried every combo of springs and followers I had on hand for my 1911s. My government size Wilson mags will lock the slide back, but the follower gets in the way afterward (have to drop it to close the slide); still it might be worth looking at one of their Officer's size magazines.
The Colt OACP magazine is a very good fit and would probably need only a slight amount of material removed from it compared to the other Officer's sized magazines I have on hand. I've used it's follower and spring in my modified magazine and it works fine: locks the slide back, but it's only six round capacity.
None of my 7 round Officer's magazines (Mec-Gar and Shooting Stars) will lock the slide back, putting their springs and followers into the modified magazine yields the same results. That said, I don't think it would be much of a chore to build one of their metal followers up high enough to work the slide stop. I think a piece of shim stock soldered, screwed, or glued into place would do the trick.
Anyway, keep us apprised of your efforts and thanks for the solid input already given.
Regards,
Greg
BTW, I really like carrying with the flush fit magazine. I have about 300 rounds through it (using both the 6 and 7 round follower/spring combos) with nary an issue.
I like that 7 round option, and for me if an 8 sticks out a little more I'm cool with that too. I think I may use some of my older 1911 mags and see what happens.
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Long time ago I posted this thread:http://kahrtalk.com/pm-series-pistol...y-pm-45-a.html
I would think that with the right mag you should be able to get 7 in a P pistol, I got 6 into the PM. In fact, if you look at the pic you'll see that my set up is actually a bit less than flush with the butt of the PM.
Be nice if Kahr would adopt these changes so we could have more rounds in factory mags.
Anybody at Kahr listening?
Cat
Cat,
Thanks for pointing out the thread on your PM45 magazine project; that was very nicely done. Kudos to VMO as well!
There was also excellent input from other members in both threads, so I've taken the liberty of including links to both threads and some quoted posts here.
Regards,
Greg
http://kahrtalk.com/pm-series-pistol....html#post9213
http://kahrtalk.com/pm-series-pistol...mags-pm45.html
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