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Thread: P380: everything starting to stick and how to Oil?

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    Default P380: everything starting to stick and how to Oil?

    I put this up on another P380 forum and got some suggestions but hopefully I can get a few more here.

    I just got this P380 and it shot fine for the first 45 round then I started getting FTF and FTE. The FTF really bothered me so I took it home and cleaned it. There was a lot of powder fouling so I was wondering if this is to be expected in a new Kahr with tolerances still tight and will it clear with more shooting and cleaning? My range's policy is to stop shooting and see the range supervisor for any FTF which is a real pain since it was happening quite a bit. I think it was starting to annoy the guy (change the policy then!).

    Did you other new P380 owners have a similar experience during your 200 round ($200) break in?

    Also, does anyone know if that little hole in the slide near the firing pin tip is for oiling the striker?

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    Raytor, did you clean the gun before the first time you shot it? It's always a good idea to totally clean a new gun of all the packing gunk the factory puts in it. Make sure the gun is unloaded and remove the mag. Next remove the slide and the spring and guide rod and the barrel. Clean everything real good, I use a pressure cleaner and clean the entre gun then wipe and excess cleaner off and let dry for a few minutes. Then I only oil the slide where it meets with the receiver and reassemble and rack the slide several times. You should be good to go for about 100 rounds. My Kahr took about 200-300 rounds to break it in. I had 2 FTE in the break in period, but ever since then not a single problem. I have 900+ rounds shot so far. Always carry a bore snake when going to the range, they work wonders if you need a quick barrel cleaning.

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    Thanks Underdog - Yeah, I cleaned and oiled it really well before taking it out. Because it seemed to act up after 1/2 a box of ammo I suspect it may have something to do with oiling the striker - I saw in this forum elsewhere that the striker should not be oiled. I will try to clean that part out and try again.

    It's a sweet little carry pistol if I can ever learn to trust it not to let me down.

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    it sounds like a case of too much oil in the wrong places, and dirty ammo

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    Kahr is saying to send it back - that's hard to do with a brand new toy.

    it sounds like a case of too much oil in the wrong places, and dirty ammo
    well in the case of 380ACP dirty ammo is better that the alternative...no ammo.

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    raytor. PM sent

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr surveyor View Post
    it sounds like a case of too much oil in the wrong places, and dirty ammo
    agree...


    and more rounds down range and the gun will get smoother to. It has to mate up and wear in places that need worn in. Give it some time, I know thatis hard to say with the scarcity of 380 ammo around but IMO there is nothing wrong with your P380

    NEVER OIL THE STRIKER CHANNEL.

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    just my pesonal experience, but I have found that too much oil residue in the firing pin, or striker tunnel, or in the chamber/barrel area, tends to attract a lot of carbon residue (especially from "dirty" ammunition). When the carbon and oil get together you will find a nasty sludge will develop in all those hard to reach places, and places you just can't see without detail stripping. The two main places I tend to want to stay free of oil are the barrel/chamber and the pin tunnel....also no need for any lube on the breach face or extractor (my opinion). Even if the "goo" doesn't cause noticeable malfunctions, it can cause undue wear.

    Just my "non-expert" opinions.


    surv

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    Default an ur dead right

    Quote Originally Posted by mr surveyor View Post
    just my pesonal experience, but I have found that too much oil residue in the firing pin, or striker tunnel, or in the chamber/barrel area, tends to attract a lot of carbon residue (especially from "dirty" ammunition). When the carbon and oil get together you will find a nasty sludge will develop in all those hard to reach places, and places you just can't see without detail stripping. The two main places I tend to want to stay free of oil are the barrel/chamber and the pin tunnel....also no need for any lube on the breach face or extractor (my opinion). Even if the "goo" doesn't cause noticeable malfunctions, it can cause undue wear.

    Just my "non-expert" opinions.


    surv
    right on that, plus add to the fact that any oil in that striker channel will run right out the firing pin hole and what is directly in front of that firing pin hole???? The Primer and if will foul ur primer and the primers in the magazine up big time and you won't know it until you pull the trigger and then nothing happens and then you start to condemn the damn gun for FTF (failure to fire) when in essense u just drowned your primer in oil. LEAVE THE STRIKER CHANNEL BONE DRY.:7:

    I don't recommend running a gun dry but I know alot of leo'S who do and their reason for doing so is the comments above. Most all guns will run 50 plus rounds bone dry without a hitch, glocks need very little lub as we all know. I use TW25 grease on my kahr rails, so that it doesnt run down my pants pocket and stain...
    Last edited by jocko; 11-04-2009 at 07:16 PM.

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    Jocko is the man!! (I sent you a PM)
    His advice was right-on and I had time to run 50 rounds through it tonight with no problems - Am on my way to the "magical" 200 rounds that are required to break it in.

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