Shield vs. PM9 - Page 6

shipwreck · #51 05-05-2012, 01:59 PM

One can have a favorite - and, I undertand that this is the Kahr site - so, enough said..

However, damn if some aren't just making this gun out to be the devil. To me, while the PM9 is a little smaller. Look at stats all ya want> When the two pistols are next to each other - there isn't a whole lotta difference.

In smart carry or in a pocket holster - they work the same for me. I happen to like the Shield better. It's a softer shooter, and I like that tiny extra bit of grip it gives. I feel more confident with the Shield, in place of the Beretta 92 I carried IWB until very recently.

Don't like the Shield and prefer your Kahr PM9 - nothing wrong with that. I can respect that. But, out of all the dozens of Shield threads on all the various gun forums.. Some guys just gotta put their slant on it here that just puts down the other gun...

JimC · #52 05-05-2012, 02:18 PM

I've been doing quite a lot of reading about that S&W Shield lately. I reading about a lot of satisfied owners.
I have to admit it sounds like a good pistol and not much larger than my PM9 to make any difference.
I haven't yet read about any magazine failures of any kind or recoil spring problems.
It doesn't seem to be ammo sensitive either.
The MSRP of my PM9 is $958.00, the Shield is only $449.00.
I think I may seek one out at a LGS and see how it feels in my hand.

OK edit, the Shield doesn't have nite sights so the MSRP of the PM9 black w/o is $837.00, it's still a big difference.

S&W Shield

jocko · #53 05-05-2012, 02:18 PM

such is life.this is a kahr forum so u should expect some of this. I have been on other gu specific forums and they ain't any different. They will defend ther turff. U like ur shield no one is against you on that part. I think from my stand point that ur also trying ur damdest to convince others that this is the only way to go, to the point IMO of that it is a reward comng to you somehow if u can swing some ur way. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN

shipwreck · #54 05-05-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko

such is life.this is a kahr forum so u should expect some of this. I have been on other gu specific forums and they ain't any different. They will defend ther turff. U like ur shield no one is against you on that part. I think from my stand point that ur also trying ur damdest to convince others that this is the only way to go, to the point IMO of that it is a reward comng to you somehow if u can swing some ur way. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN

Actually, all I have said is that I like the gun more than the PM9. At no point did I talk bad about the Kahr. My point was that theres a lot of badmouthing from people who haven't even shot a Shield. And, all the speculation that the gun will go no where, and such.. Just bad attitude, was my point.

I've also said that some will like Kahrs more than the Shield. Nothing wrong with that.

jocko · #55 05-05-2012, 03:56 PM

ur right, I never said negatives about the shiled either, but like I said, when on a kahr fourm or a ruger forum, expect loyalty from them more than anything else.stated my only negative (f one can call it that) is that 3 levers on the left side is 2 to many. Doesn't' mean it is a bad gun, just for means I don't want it. I don't compare price points either, if one can't afford a kahr be it a PM or cm9 then look elsewhere. U will like the Smith. I am sure it is a good gun. Hell people bad mouth kahrs on other forums alot. U might think it is deserving, I just don't...I am sure alot of the kahr bad mouthing is from peopl,e who have not shot the gun either. It is the nature of the beast. I would think though u would be posting (and maybe u are) on the M & P forum where u will get the kind of feedback that your looking for, positivbes for SHIELD and negatives for the KAHR. Those bopys defend their turff pretty good to. Just sayin.

shipwreck · #56 05-05-2012, 04:11 PM

Well, I have actually owned a Kahr for a little over 2 years now. It was the smallest, dependable 9mm I had found. And, its well made. But after getting the Shield, I decided to sell my Kahr. I'm meeting the buyer tomorrow. Both are good guns

itsthelaw · #57 05-05-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shipwreck

Well, I have actually owned a Kahr for a little over 2 years now. It was the smallest, dependable 9mm I had found. And, its well made. But after getting the Shield, I decided to sell my Kahr. I'm meeting the buyer tomorrow. Both are good guns

So sell the PM9 for a reasonable price and move onto the new gun! If that is your thing, then it is perfect for you. If you move over to the M&P forum, they will make you feel even better about your move. After 2 years, the PM9 should still be worth $500, so you can get some cash for it. If you didn't pay too much for it, you should have had a good learning experince that will cost you about $100. Not bad in my world!

Kartar · #58 05-05-2012, 10:50 PM

I bought an M&P shield and have fired about 250 trouble free rounds thru it. My accuracy is much better with it than the longer pull of the Kahr's, which is probably because the Shields trigger is closer to my Glock's. However, Kahrs are more size efficient and they are both outstanding handguns.

wagon · #59 05-06-2012, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shipwreck

Actually, all I have said is that I like the gun more than the PM9. At no point did I talk bad about the Kahr. My point was that theres a lot of badmouthing from people who haven't even shot a Shield. And, all the speculation that the gun will go no where, and such.. Just bad attitude, was my point.

I've also said that some will like Kahrs more than the Shield. Nothing wrong with that.

Since 2009 join date and about 60 posts later, apparently you still have not noticed the 'charecteristics' of this site?????? You must be a slow learner

Thank for the pix posted, I am surprise to read those posts sugesting the Shield is 'MUCH larger' than Kahr..... Well..... Pants on fire! From your pix, they are quite similar in size.

Anyway, may be I could have waited a few weeks when I bought the CM9, but I think I would still bring home the CM due to weight and without (safety) features.

Congrat for finding a tool that fits you, enjoy the Shield, S&W is a good company, if not better than................

JimC · #60 05-06-2012, 04:02 AM

I'm still doing my research on the S&W Shield and came across this just this morning on yes, the S&W Forum.

Shield Round Count

Long story made short, 40 posts, 9,285 rds., NO malfunctions, NO split mags, NO recoil assembly failures, NO reported mag springs in backwards...

I really like my PM9 due to its size and ease of carry but it has not been without its problems in only 1,596 rds.

I need to seek one out locally this week. And no, I won't be selling my PM9 if I buy the Shield.