slides/frames on TP9 and P9, mine seem to be interchangeable

[jocko]

Originally Posted by clance

I have an original TP-9 with the short P frame and just love how it feels in my hand and how easily it conceals on my person. It's a definate keeper!

While visiting my daughter's family, my son in law and I were talking about him getting him a Kahr for conceal carry. He's pretty much settled on the P9 for its size even though he likes how my TP feels.

During our coversation he ask me about the length of the grip on my TP. I was a little puzzled but told him that it was the same as the standard P, that is when he brought up the internet and show me on the Kahr's site that they changed this wonderful pistol's grip length.

Production or conceal carry market wise I don't see the sense of producing a polymer frame with the grip length of the Tactical for a conceal carry piece.

Can some one explain to me what is/was on Kahr mind that they felt it necessary to increase the size of the grip?

do u say the short P9 frame. could it not be that soeone did a covert to the tp frame to make itlook like the P9 frames. where wouldonejust get a P9 frame??? Kahr won't sellum. We have seen cverts dne on other polymer kahrs, I would figure a covert cold easily be done on the tp series just as easy. Just sayin

from the photo it certainly looks like a P frame by the amount of front slide being left out. I wonder just how much of the front slide channel isw actualy engaged in the P9 frame front inbedded rail.., as it looks to me like that slide sticks out a hell of alot. Just saying..

[chrish]

jocko, from his pic, that's an original TP9. So it's not cut, check out the bottom of the grip, smooth border between the side texture and the front/back checkering.

The TP9 originally came in the format of the pic posted just above. It was originally a frame the size of a normal P9 with a .5" longer slide/barrel. I prefer the look of the current TP and P, just thought it looked stretched in that format.

I've seen some pics of P9 'covert' pistols that folks have chopped. They are pretty much a PM9 frame w/ a P9 slide/barrel. But on those, you can easily see where what they've cut off the grip makes it

I agree, no doubt that the original TP9 was a bit more concealable. Just wasn't enough to be a big deal for me. I carry both, but more often I do carry the P9.

clance... picts of your Chiappa are now required That's on my short list. I want that .357 bad bad bad!

[clance]

Originally Posted by chrish

clance... picts of your Chiappa are now required That's on my short list. I want that .357 bad bad bad!

As soon as I get back to the house I would be glad to post a picture or two of the Rhino.

It's a great revolver that has little muzzle flip with .357 and none with .38 +Ps. To think that is out of a 2" inch alloy gun. If you ever shot a 2-1/2 inch 640 Smith or a SP-101 Ruger loaded with .357s you know what I mean!

I instantly fell for it the first time I shot one and would highly recommand one over either a J-frame Smith or a SP-101 Ruger as a conceal carry piece. Yes, it's not as pretty as a nickel plated or high polish blue Smith, Colt or Ruger but boy does it got it where it counts! The only thing that I don't like about it is that Chiappa mount rubber grips on it instead of nylon or wood. While I understand that they probably did that to reduce felt recoil in the palm of your hand (and with .357 you do feel it even with the rubber grips). The rubber grips grab at clothing, something that you do not want with a conceal carry piece. As soon as I can I plan on replacing the rubber grips with large wood one so that I can modify the grips to fit my hand.

EDIT:

As promise a couple pictures of my Rhino in comparison to my TP-9.





Of course the Rhino is thicker then the TP for obvious reasons, but the height is approximately the same and the length is approximately the same as one of the P series. Of course the TP conceals easier due to in thin profile, but the holster included with the Rhino does a great job of hiding it's bulk.

[Gangplank]

I picked up a used TP9 today. It's the original frame model w/ shorter grip & frame.

[MikeyKahr]

Congrats gangplank, the TP9 is on my to buy list one of these days. Please tell us how it shoots for you.

[ripley16]

Originally Posted by Gangplank

I picked up a used TP9 today. It's the original frame model w/ shorter grip & frame.

Welcome to the forum and nice find in the TP9. They are fairly rare. Thought this would be a good spot to picture the "new style" TP9. It is differentiated by the longer grip and longer dust cover. I've toyed with the idea of chopping my long grip, but haven't felt the need yet.

New style TP.

[Gangplank]

Here is a pic of the orig format w/ The 7rnd mag installed and showing the 8rnd mags w/ extender.

Measurements are 6.5" length x right about 4.5 from slide to end of handle (w/ sights it's about 4.75". 4.0" barrel I believe.







The tiles are 5.75 according to my tape.

[jocko]

nice tiles: Just sayin

[jocko]

Originally Posted by ripley16

Welcome to the forum and nice find in the TP9. They are fairly rare. Thought this would be a good spot to picture the "new style" TP9. It is differentiated by the longer grip and longer dust cover. I've toyed with the idea of chopping my long grip, but haven't felt the need yet.

New style TP.

like urs compared to the outter version. Kinda makes methink they indeed startedout with the TP9 using the P9 lower

[Gangplank]

Agreed. The orig. looks like P9 frame w/ T9 upper. That said the grip length seem good for my hands w/ out the extension. Pinky fits right on the end. Will know more when I shoot it. :~>

The newer is more flush at the muzzle but the grip is definitely longer.