no licence to conceal carry? thoughts/opinions welcome

[xsailer]

If there was IF there was ANY other way than a Gov agency to be a legitimate verifying source of a CC person having been shown the basics of CC then I would be for it. I hate to see the Gov get their abusive hands in the pie then I'm all for it. What would be acceptable then: NRA, shooting organizations, Clubs???

The above post suggestions of accepting Vererans, etc. is good.

[Barth]

As previously stated -
Constitutional carry has worked well in Arizona and other states for years.

Reciprocity with other states is an issue - hence I still have my Florida permit.
But I'm for constitutional carry.

[ScottM]

as a part time bank teller and part time stay at home dad... i wish the courses were cheaper.. lol

maybe ill see if my friend could give me a course on one of my days off.. oh wait.. i dont have those.. lol

Great point. That is indeed the down side - cost and availability. And actually that's an excellent argument against training as a requirement. In fact, it would be a liberal argument if liberals liked guns because low-income citizens are disadvantaged whenever flat fees are involved. Like, $100 is no biggie if you're making above median income, but when you're juggling and pedaling and just making ends meet, that $100 just isn't there. As a result, lower economic classes would be discriminated against, as would the elderly and anyone unable to get to a class due to distance or schedule or disability.

The other aspect is how much that person's safety (and family and public) is compromised by not having any training. Back in the colonial days, there might not be a single person without firearm exposure growing up, and that isn't the case today.

Is peer pressure enough today to pride/shame carriers to seek training on their own as a best practice?

[pwilson]

that $100 just isn't there.

$100 for the class... and then another $100 for the permit... thats almost an entire paycheck for the average part time employee

[ScottM]

$100 for the class... and then another $100 for the permit... thats almost an entire paycheck for the average part time employee

Right. And yet the public had no problem making me shell out $400 for my child's driver training and ID fees, and another $1500 per year in insurance, to mitigate the public safety risks of a young driver.

[marcinstl]

" my child's"
now surely somebody explained how that happens, where they come from? or was it a negligent discharge? (start slapping your knee and laugh hard anywhere here).
I was just reading that the average kid costs about $250K from age 0 to 18, college not included. did they tell you that? on the plus side, we live in this socialist paradise with public education and some healthcare, so that might defray the costs of breeding. (about 70% of my property taxes go to supporting an unaccredited and failing school district, that kind of sours me.)
part of the reason I conceal carry is to defend myself from the offspring of ne'er-do-wells. the above mentioned public school isn't even capable of producing students with an ability to speak conversational or business English. opps, feel a rant coming on, time to stop. good luck, have a nice day.

[ScottM]

" my child's"
now surely somebody explained how that happens, where they come from? or was it a negligent discharge? (start slapping your knee and laugh hard anywhere here).

LOL. I've heard scientists think they know where kids come from but I'm sticking with the stork theory, because scientists are fools and only produce results that affirm their own government funding gravy train.

[xsailer]

One of the things I didn't like about the legal CC process was the cost and the time I waited to getting my permit. I remember it was it was well over $200. $85 8 hr. class, $100 to Att. Gen., $33 approx. to Sheriff. At the time it was 90 days after taking two checks to the Sheriff dept that I received my CC approval which had to be taken the licence bureau where I paid that fee (approx. $16) to get my photo CC card/permit. Of course I didn't get the photo card then as it would be mailed to me. While waiting for it I was allowed to CC using the receipt of my application for the CC photo permit card.
The Class, Permit and related expenses nearly cost as much as my weapon.

[CCHGN]

I agree with Constitutional carry. Permit is the root word for permission, I don't need permission to keep and bear arms. However, I DO think all who carry should have to carry a card (much like a Driver's License) of training and practice, issued by trainers or gun shops, with mandatory ongoing training and practice and kept up to date. Exemption if ongoing competition shooting.

[CPTKILLER]

We should never have to beg for any Constitutional Right nor pay a fee for it period!

Texas is not in good shape with this with the RINOs and lethargic gun owners.