
04-30-2012, 06:12 PM
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M&P's are nice guns. I have been shooting various 9s with my wife so she can make a decision on what she wants for her first gun. We shot the M&P9 the other week and while I shot good enough to get a thumbs up from our range officer, she was not nearly as accurate as she was with my Glock or an XDm. Like I said, it depends on the individual. Thats why there are so many choices. How lucky are we to have all these great guns to choose from? So many guns, so little cash.
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05-02-2012, 03:08 PM
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I have become a big Glock fan. After much reading about the crazy accuracy of the G30 (.45), I was determined to get one or a 1911. I found a lightly used Gen 3 G30 with night sights, case, 10 round, and 13 round mags for a killer deal, I pounced. I am so glad I did. The only failure I had was with a bad used mag I picked up that jammed every time. I took it back to the shop, got a new one and never had a problem. Not one issue. And you would not believe how accurate it is. It will hang with my bros 1911 at 25 yards. So, my vote goes to the Glock.
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05-02-2012, 11:58 PM
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M&P vs. Glock
I have found my S&W M&P 9c to be perfectly reliable and I shoot well with it. With the three sizes of backstraps it fits my small hand well. It feels balanced more so than the Glock that I considered. It definitely is more like a full service auto than say a 2 inch snub.
The 9c conceals well almost like my MK9 but I have removed the manual safety levers that came with the 9c.
I can remember when handguns fired only 6 rds. so a 13 rd. auto is plenty. For that matter the 7rds. in the MK 9 is plenty.
The choice of caliber should be 9mm for this gun for a number of reasons; most important to me is the cost savings for ammo.
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05-03-2012, 06:10 AM
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I don't need any rails on small compacts. Have a G19, had a M & P 9, it was a dandy gun to. My G19 is y best sooter after a tune job by accurate Iron. Great gun, but just sits though as my PM9 trumps it anyt day of the week.My G19 is far more accurate (duh!) but not worth a fokk when it is sitting at home. Just to damn big for me to carry..
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05-03-2012, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jocko
I don't need any rails on small compacts. Have a G19, had a M & P 9, it was a dandy gun to. My G19 is y best sooter after a tune job by accurate Iron. Great gun, but just sits though as my PM9 trumps it anyt day of the week.My G19 is far more accurate (duh!) but not worth a fokk when it is sitting at home. Just to damn big for me to carry..
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Well, the G19 serves a legitimate function as a home defense gun, where the larger size and higher capacity are positives. Although a tactical shotgun would be a nice thing to have at home, as well.
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05-03-2012, 09:05 AM
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Rent, shoot, know.
Even holding a gun without actual live fire won't do it for me.
The funny thing is my Glock feels like a plastic brick just to hold.
But shooting it is a different story all together.
Plus the endless supply of after market parts,
and cross model compatibility, is hard to ignore.
Glocks are good guns out of the box (Gen 3 and earlier).
But you can Rock your Glock from good gun
into great gun with very little trouble.
I love my G27/357.
It has evolved way beyond my wildest expectations.
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05-03-2012, 04:56 PM
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I stopped reading after about 2.5 pages so if I duplicate someones thoughts I apologize.
IMHO Glock wins out here.
External safety on the M&P is the first and major turn off to me so it is very likely that I will never own one. I have read many reviews and it gets great reviews from most owners. Smith makes a great piece and they stand behind their stuff but the external safety IMHO is a NO NO on a CCW weapon.
I own a G27, G23, G22 and a G36. I don't need to tell everyone how reliable and accurate they are, all of you have read and heard it hundreds of times. I have not experienced the brass in the face problem and when I am buying a combat/CCW pistol aesthetics are not a concern nor are they high on the list of considerations. BTW I don't think Glocks are ugly!!!!
Anyway, Glocks are reliable, ready to go, safe and very accurate pistols. Not to mention the interchangability of barrels to shoot multiple calibers from one platform. Very hard to pass up for under $500. Downside??? No cast bullets...jacketed only.
OK OK OK Yes I am biased
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05-03-2012, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scoose
External safety on the M&P is the first and major turn off to me so it is very likely that I will never own one. I have read many reviews and it gets great reviews from most owners. Smith makes a great piece and they stand behind their stuff but the external safety IMHO is a NO NO on a CCW weapon.
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You must be referring to the Shield and only a select few of the compact and full sized ones. About 75%-80% of M&Ps I see don't have a safety. They may not have the history of the Glock, but they are so much more comfortable and ergonomic. Just about every review I have read of the M&Ps has been positive with no failures.
Then again, I'm biased as well... Just in the other direction...
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05-03-2012, 11:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFootin
Well, the G19 serves a legitimate function as a home defense gun, where the larger size and higher capacity are positives.
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That's why I have a full sized HK 40 - High capacity, night sights, and 100% reliability.
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05-03-2012, 11:47 PM
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3x22 + 3x9 + 1 = 94 rounds of 40 Cal
Quote:
Originally Posted by O'Dell
That's why I have a full sized HK 40 - High capacity, night sights, and 100% reliability.
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