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Old 07-09-2012, 07:59 PM
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Default beretta nano vs kahr cm9

I own a kahr cm9 and am considering buying a nano do any of y'all have any experience with the nano and how does it compare to the cm9?
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:17 PM
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A gentleman, Russel I believe, wrote extensively about his nano, the cm9, the ruger lc9, etc.

Found it: http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t...highlight=nano

He may have switched to a Shield after that:

http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t...ghlight=shield
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:50 AM
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Thanks for the link Alfonse!
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:10 AM
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I own a kahr cm9 and am considering buying a nano do any of y'all have any experience with the nano and how does it compare to the cm9?
gTFAN:

I owned a CM9 for 4 months and shot 600 rounds through the gun.

I than purchased a Nano November 2011 and shot 1,334 rounds through the gun and had 11 FTE. I traded in April 2012 for a Shield.

I pocket the Shield for 10 hours a day in a Desanti model "E1" and could not be happier.

I have shot an assortment of 115 grain cheap ammo and it eats it all up with zero failures and is dead on accurate and the trigger is the best of the M&P line.

I changed out the full size three dot sights (excellent) for XS Big Dot Night Sights and I can still blast the black of the 50 ft rated target at 7 yards and do it in quick fashion

My experience with the Nano was a mixed bag. I shot 124 grain (130 rounds) with zero failures but every brand of 115 grain would FTE at a rate of 1 - 2% of the time even after a trip back to Beretta. (Federal Champion, WWB, S&B)

Many on the Beretta forum felt the extractor design was the problem.

I would recommend you search the archieves of the Beretta forum beginning in November 2011 and you decide if you want to make the investment.

In defense of the Nano it is a very well built gun and I would still most likely own the Kahr had the front night sight Kahr installed twice had not snapped off after a box a shells.


Good Luck,

Russ

P.S.

If you are considering pocket conceal the Nano loaded 23oz (7 rounds) Shield 24.1 oz (8 rounds) and I believe the CM9 loaded is between 19 & 20 oz.

The extra few oz can be felt in the pocket and I do tighten my belt a notch. I also found the Shield stock rear sight would catch on some of my picket openings. The night sight design alleviated that concern.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:38 AM
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I pocket carry my cm9 in a desantis superfly I can comfortably carry in dress pants or relaxed fitting jeans.The only thing I don't like about the cm9 is the way it breaks down to clean.I considered the shield because I have a full size m&p but it is a good bit larger than the cm9 and I did not think it would be comfortable to pocket carry.The nano is about the same size as the cm9 so I figured I would check into it.Can you tell a big difference between the shield and the nano while pocket carrying?
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:36 AM
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the breaking down part sure would not be a breaker for me. Kahrs are simple to break down, u just hav enot done it enough, also, not somethingu do every day either. They put witnessmarks on the gun for you to line up. That little springhy will not get bent if u put it back right either. Nothing against a nano or smith . If ur gonna pocket carry u gonna find the cm9 very hard to beat especially safety wise. Just sayin.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:42 AM
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I pocket carry my cm9 in a desantis superfly I can comfortably carry in dress pants or relaxed fitting jeans.The only thing I don't like about the cm9 is the way it breaks down to clean.I considered the shield because I have a full size m&p but it is a good bit larger than the cm9 and I did not think it would be comfortable to pocket carry.The nano is about the same size as the cm9 so I figured I would check into it.Can you tell a big difference between the shield and the nano while pocket carrying?
Gtfan:

I pocket carried the Nano from November until April.

The weight (23 oz) loaded I noticed right off over the CM9 especially if I was active. When I moved from the Nano to the Shield pocket packing I did not notice any difference and no one in the office knows I am packing.

I bike to work and the Shield goes into a fanny pack while on the bike and into the pocket when I get to work. I do walk around a lot during the day in a professional office and I have gotten use to the Shield, but if I have to run the 24.1 oz loaded Shield in 9 mm (8 rounds) will beat the crap out of my leg.

Yes, the Nano is 1/2 inch shorter than the Shield and not as tall (Shield holds one more round) but the weight and thickness is about the same as the Shield and as I mentioned I changed out stock high profile three dot sights for XS Big Dot Night sights which has a low profile rear sight angled forward eliminating pocket snag in 36x32 Dockers. I can with no problem draw, sweep the thumb safety and dry fire in 1.5 seconds.

If you own an M&P full size do not judge the trigger as the same because the Shield trigger is completly redesigned and improved in fact S&W plans to incorporate the new Shield trigger into the entire M&P family.

Personally, owning and packing both the Nano and Shield if I was to do it all over again I would buy the Shield even if the Nano would have been 100% failure free.

There is a reason the Shield is selling on Gunbroker for much more than suggested retail and waiting lists everywhere are long for the gun.


Russ

P.S. I have included pictures on this forum of a range report in the past. I can with the flush magazine get 1/2 the thickness of my pinkie finger on the grip which I really have come to enjoy !
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:19 AM
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Russ, thanks for the insight on pocket carrying the shield next to my walther ppq my full size m&p is my favorite 9mm so if I can find a gun shop with a shield I will see how it feels in my pocket holster.I am not selling my cm9 just looking to add another firearm to the stable.
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:13 AM
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http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t...ghlight=shield

Click on link for pictures of the XS Big Dot Night Sights on my Shield.

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Old 07-11-2012, 07:44 AM
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http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t...ghlight=shield

Click on link for pictures of the XS Big Dot Night Sights on my Shield.

Russ
I am trying to work up the courage to try those on my shield. We all have the "bullseye gun" mentality in our heads when we go to the range. Oddly enough, my Sig 226 has the same lollipop version and I have no trouble with it. I just can't get used to total cover up of what I am aiming at. I currently shoot at white paper with a 1" square of florescent sticker at 30'.
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