NYPD and Their Kahr K9 Pistols

#1 03-10-2010, 11:21 AM

The NYPD reportedly had what they thought were serious problems with the Kahr K9 pistols a couple of years ago which ultimately led the department to remove them from their approved handguns list.

Exactly what were those supposed problems and what efforts did Kahr make in attempting to resolve them?

Vinikahr · #2 03-10-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain38

The NYPD reportedly had what they thought were serious problems with the Kahr K9 pistols a couple of years ago which ultimately led the department to remove them from their approved handguns list.

Exactly what were those supposed problems and what efforts did Kahr make in attempting to resolve them?

Good question.
I am patiently waiting for the gurus to answer this one.
And Welcome to the board!

#3 03-15-2010, 05:28 PM

I'm waiting also. And, I currently own one of those very guns.

hsart · #4 03-15-2010, 05:51 PM

My understanding is that there was no official statement as to the problems that was issued by either Kahr or NYPD. I may be wrong on this but would like to know as well. I have heard various rumors - all unsubstantiated. You would think that Kahr would have issued a statement to totally and finally resolve any future concerns regarding the K9.

JodyH · #5 03-15-2010, 06:36 PM

NYPD requested a longer trigger pull (1/2" instead of 3/8") these pistol eventually had problems with the trigger not resetting.
To my knowledge this has not been a problem for standard 3/8" trigger pull K9's, just the NYPD mongrel guns.

#6 03-17-2010, 11:10 AM

I recall reading a long thread in another forum some time ago in which the someone from NYPD had posted that the guns were experiencing all kinds of parts breakages and jams.

This is hard to believe for me because my daily carry gun is a K9 NYPD spec. It has been utterly reliable through over 1000 rds so far. FWIW, NYPD seems to experience problems with guns at a higher rate than most. It seems a little fishy. Perhaps politics to push for the adoption of another gun due to financial concerns?

hsart · #7 03-17-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fnforme

I recall reading a long thread in another forum some time ago in which the someone from NYPD had posted that the guns were experiencing all kinds of parts breakages and jams.

This is hard to believe for me because my daily carry gun is a K9 NYPD spec. It has been utterly reliable through over 1000 rds so far. FWIW, NYPD seems to experience problems with guns at a higher rate than most. It seems a little fishy. Perhaps politics to push for the adoption of another gun due to financial concerns?

I agree. From everything I have read on the subject, I would bet that the NYPD decision had internal political/financial overtones, though they apparently went through a lengthy review process before deciding on the K9. Never made much sense.

jocko · #8 03-17-2010, 02:48 PM

karh is in the process of getting the K9 re approved. Have no idea why it was dropped out of the NYPD off duty list. Lots of politics in NYPD guys, you all know that. there has never been ever any instances of any k9 breaking etc and the 1/2" longer trigger system is still in the NYPD K( being sold today,s o I ain['t buying the trigger system as athe culprit either. It is as good a "working" system ad the 3/8" pull.

I have a friend whose wife is a police officer in the syracuse NY area and her two backup guns are the P380 and PM9, ...

#9 03-17-2010, 07:21 PM

I spoke to a retired NYPD "armorer" today, and he said that NYPD dictated the gun be made with a certain trigger pull and when it was made to spec, they then just didn't like it.

Other than that, he said there was nothing wrong with the gun.

Well, I just spoke to someone at Kahr about another issue. while on the phone, I took a minute to ask him. He said that the NYPD spec'd the gun with a 7 lb. trigger spring. After the gun "wore in' the trigger lightened up to 5 lbs. No good for the NYPD.

#10 06-16-2010, 04:39 PM

I have a new K9 and had to buy it with the dang NYPD trigger because thats the only way the blackened stainless comes as far as I know. I didnt want the NYPD trigger, but gave it a try during the 200rd break in. I didnt like it and thought it was too long. I sent it to Kahr and had the "Elite Trigger Upgrade" installed and now I like it a lot better. It should have come that way in the first place. Why would Kahr do a tribute trigger to LE in a state thats anti-gun???