Oh yes, just par-a-noid

[Chief Joseph]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...n-regulations/


Proof once again, this admin will use any criminal devious attempt to push their anti gun agenda.

[Markis82]

Typical BS once again!! Funny how anyone in the article who advances the assertion that F & F was going to be used to advance gun regulations is from once side of the isle. Furthermore, they all mention evidence. You'd think if they had evidence they would show that evidence and not just say that there is evidence. They will find the evidence in the same place as the Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. Another GOP smoke screen!

[TheTman]

Well Markis, if you think you know more than the CBS news staff about the deal, why don't you clue us all in as to what they were trying to accomplish with fast and furious? Of course the accusations are going to be from the GOP, you think the democrats are gonna attack their own?
I was a bit surprised to see CBS, one of the liberal lapdog media, put out that story.

[muggsy]

Originally Posted by Markis82

Typical BS once again!! Funny how anyone in the article who advances the assertion that F & F was going to be used to advance gun regulations is from once side of the isle. Furthermore, they all mention evidence. You'd think if they had evidence they would show that evidence and not just say that there is evidence. They will find the evidence in the same place as the Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. Another GOP smoke screen!

Markis,
I suggest that you check the congressional voting record to find out just which side of the aisle has been pushing for restrictive gun control measures from the very beginning. Hint, you don't need to look a the right side of the aisle.
Muggsy

[Markis82]

Originally Posted by thetmanski

Well Markis, if you think you know more than the CBS news staff about the deal, why don't you clue us all in as to what they were trying to accomplish with fast and furious? Of course the accusations are going to be from the GOP, you think the democrats are gonna attack their own?
I was a bit surprised to see CBS, one of the liberal lapdog media, put out that story.

No, I didn't ay that!! I asked what evidence? If there really was evidence why wouldn't they make the so called evidence public?

[Markis82]

Originally Posted by muggsy

Markis,
I suggest that you check the congressional voting record to find out just which side of the aisle has been pushing for restrictive gun control measures from the very beginning. Hint, you don't need to look a the right side of the aisle.
Muggsy

We all know that there are more Democrats who support gun laws than Republicans. However, I was referring to the article presented here and saying this is nothing more than a political ploy.

[TheTman]

Come on Markis, you think they are going to find a memo saying "To pass more gun control measures, we are going to create a situation on the border bad enough the public will demand stricter gun control laws"? Wake up dude!
These guys know what they are doing and how to cover their tracks and lie to congress.

[Markis82]

Originally Posted by thetmanski

Come on Markis, you think they are going to find a memo saying "To pass more gun control measures, we are going to create a situation on the border bad enough the public will demand stricter gun control laws"? Wake up dude!
These guys know what they are doing and how to cover their tracks and lie to congress.

Did you read the article posted??? I was referring to statements like, "There's plenty of evidence showing that this administration planned to use the tragedies of Fast and Furious as rationale to further their goals..." Saying OK What evidence? Anyone can make a statement like, "There's plenty of evidence..." However, when asked to produced said evidence, they seem have empty hands.

[TheTman]

My guess is the evidence is pieced together from all the memo's and documents and false testimony given to congress by Holder. No one thing is particularly damning, but taken as a whole the picture becomes clearer to those investigating this disaster. Kind of like putting together a criminal investigation of say a murder, many times no one piece of evidence plays a key role, but all the evidence taken together leads to a either a guilty or not guilty verdict. There are many pages to wade through and I'll leave it to those doing the investigation to wade through all that. I think the charges the congressmen are leveling at the Dept. of (un)Justice are pretty serious and they wouldn't be leveling them if they didn't have documents to back them up.

[Markis82]

Originally Posted by thetmanski

My guess is the evidence is pieced together from all the memo's and documents and false testimony given to congress by Holder. No one thing is particularly damning, but taken as a whole the picture becomes clearer to those investigating this disaster. Kind of like putting together a criminal investigation of say a murder, many times no one piece of evidence plays a key role, but all the evidence taken together leads to a either a guilty or not guilty verdict. There are many pages to wade through and I'll leave it to those doing the investigation to wade through all that. I think the charges the congressmen are leveling at the Dept. of (un)Justice are pretty serious and they wouldn't be leveling them if they didn't have documents to back them up.

If that were truly the case, they would have said that. It is all just political BS. Just using the F & F situation to forward a political agenda. Oh BTW, where are those weapons of mass destruction that they had all this "evidence" existed?