Oh yes, just par-a-noid

[TheTman]

I'd say more than half of the things done in D.C. are to further SOMEONE's political aspirations. EVERYONE wants to get re-elected to those cushy jobs.
I agree, this is getting pretty political, and we are definately not going to solve the world's problems here on a gun forum, nor are we going to change anyone's mind about much of anything.

So what gun do does everyone want Santa to bring them for Christmas?
I just ordered my Christmas gift.
S&W 686 6" .357 Deluxe 7 shot "TALO" edition:


I also sent in my check for my pocket beast, unfortunately it will be a couple months until it's ready to ship: I got on the list early and was about number 180. They have a few hundred left on the preorder list before they can start selling to the public. Everyone that has received one though really loves the way it shoots, very little perceived recoil with the rotating barrel design, and your hand right under the chamber. And it comes with 2 magazines. That's nice as who knows how long before mags. Bobergarms.com has all the info on it if you're curious. It's frame is strong aluminum, which makes it a little heavier than the PM9, but it's 1/3 inch longer barrel is supposed to add more FPS/FPE. It's not a cheap gun by a long shot. I think as he gets to making more of them and selling to the general public his price is going to have to come down to be competive. Although I think he's going to keep making small batches to keep it a rare and therefore pricey item.

[LaP]

Originally Posted by getsome

Don't be talkin bout ole slick Willy cause remember he took out that plant making asprins of mass destruction and took care of bidness over in Samilia...

Wasn't it a Baby Milk Factory?

[TheTman]

Don't you hate it when you've blown your years gun money and the year hasn't even started?

[LaP]

Originally Posted by thetmanski

Don't you hate it when you've blown your years gun money and the year hasn't even started?

Never been a problem. I'm currently writing checks postdated to August 2016.

[Markis82]

As I said earlier, best to leave the political topics for other forums where it is more appropriate.

[O'Dell]

Originally Posted by Markis82

You all can justify anything to yourself you what. Go ahead and enjoy patting yourself on the back. It is useless talking to such closed minded people. Enjoy each other's righteous Republicanism!

Typically liberal - when you can't win an argument it's on the name calling. BTW, I resigned from the Republican Party in 1995, so you'll have to come up with something else.

[tv_racin_fan]

I aint never been a member of the republican party.. until a couple years ago I was registered as a democrat. I didn't vote for either President Bush but I did vote for President Clinton, once..

Still I love that WMD lie bit. Mention that more or less the same lie was told by President Clinton and the democrats in congress and watch em squirm.

[TheTman]

I consider myself an conservative libertarian independent. Perhaps even a Tea Party supporter. I support conservatives who are for limited federal power, no matter what party they belong too, such as the Dixiecrats from years gone by, but I think most of them have been forced out of the party by the liberal nut jobs that have taken over, so that leaves me supporting Republican candidates 95% of the time. There are a lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle I have issues with. Particularly moderate to liberal politicians masquerading as conservatives, as seems to be the case with the newest front runner in the GOP presidential race. I don't think he is a solid supporter of the 2nd Admendment. And that's one of my biggest concerns about him.

[muggsy]

Originally Posted by Markis82

We all know that there are more Democrats who support gun laws than Republicans. However, I was referring to the article presented here and saying this is nothing more than a political ploy.

The NRA doesn't agree with you. The NRA says that the treaty is a threat to private firearms ownership. Having been a life member of the NRA since 1972, I tend to believe them. You are free to believe what ever you want.

[John222]

I don't understand all the attention F&F is getting. Who care about the guns. They tried to use guns to track bad guys and it didn't work so well. So what if those guns were used to kill some border agents. The bad guys have lots of guns. They could have just as easily used some other guns. By the way, it's republicans doing all the shouting. And I'm surprised since it's the republicans and NRA that preaches "Guns don't kill people, people kill people!". Why aren't they saying that now... They are just looking for anything they to divert Obama's attention to BS accusations.