Bill Whittle on Trump

[TheTman]

Bill Whittle talks about Trump and some issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBG6Xds7ifA

[muggsy]

Bill Whittle has given us many reasons for not making Donald Trump the republican candidate for President. The most important reason is that Donald Trump isn't a true conservative. I won't vote for less that a true conservative. If Donald Trump wants my vote he'll have to change some of his liberal positions and prove to me that he is sincere in his beliefs. None of the polls have shown that he can beat Hillary Clinton in the presidential election. Both Cruz and Rubio have shown in the polls that they can.

[DanTana]

Seems to me Trump is the only candidate who can bring the "Reagan" Democrats over for their vote this November. I don't think Rubio or Cruz has that ability and we will need that this election. Plus, Trump will rip Hitlery or Bernout a new one in any debates they have, not that either Rubio or Cruz couldn't, but Trump is a take no prisoners kind of mentality.

[muggsy]

What good will it do for Donald Trump to bring Reagan democrats over for their votes if he can't secure the conservative republican base. If the race come down to Trump and Hillary you'll have the choice of voting for the lesser of two evils. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. Haven't we had enough of voting for the lesser of two evils?

[JohnR]

Bill Whittle has given us many reasons for not making Donald Trump the republican candidate for President. The most important reason is that Donald Trump isn't a true conservative. I won't vote for less that a true conservative. If Donald Trump wants my vote he'll have to change some of his liberal positions and prove to me that he is sincere in his beliefs. None of the polls have shown that he can beat Hillary Clinton in the presidential election. Both Cruz and Rubio have shown in the polls that they can.
I haven't seen these polls. When were they taken? They go against my instincts.

[muggsy]

Tune into Fox News, John. The results of these polls have been broadcast many times. They're nationwide polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

[muggsy]

Rubio is an acceptable candidate, but Rubio is Cruz-lite. He's the establishments choice of a conservative candidate. If Cruz doesn't become the party's candidate then he should be nominated to the Supreme Court should a republican candidate win the election for president. Cruz is a conservative in the image of Antonin Scalia.

[JohnR]

Thanks for the link, Muggs. I never watch Fox News. Nor do I trust polls. I'm not convinced Hillary will be the Dem nominee, superdelegates or not.

[Bobshouse]

Thanks for the link, Muggs. I never watch Fox News. Nor do I trust polls. I'm not convinced Hillary will be the Dem nominee, superdelegates or not.

Now that would make my day.

[wyntrout]

The editorial after that was even better... about Hillary's lawlessness.

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[CJB]

Fasting cry-babies and their limp minions wont get Cruz elected. But it will be a good show.

[Redstate]

Trump is awesome. He (possibly Cruz also) is the only one that can save this country from its final demise. We don't need a conservative purist.

[deadeye]

We have a left wing ego maniac in office now. Will a right wing ego maniac be any better? I agree with Whittle that there are reasons to vote for Trump and reasons not to. I will give him credit for bringing a lot of closet conservatives out to vote. My heart says "Trump!". My brains says "Not so Fast!" Am having a rough time deciding this time around. However, as has been stated, I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils. Wish I could be sold on Cruz or Rubio but having problems there also. I have liked Carson from the beginning - but?

[TheTman]

I thought that the most important part of Bill's speech was: To quit throwing rocks at those that don't like the same candidate as you. To try and remain friends no matter what someone else thinks about your candidate, and that can't we all just get along. He also had the humbleness to admit that he is not going to change anyone's vote, no matter what he says. Some people think if they jump up and down and scream Cruz is the only conservative long enough, that will convince people to change their vote.
Muggsy, I don't believe you when you say only a true conservative gets your vote. You voted for McCain, Romney, and Bush didn't you. Are those TRUE conservatives, I don't think so, but they beat the alternative.
Since Bush is out of the race, I'm going to vote for whoever the people select as the nominee. Unless they GOP plays tricks to get one of their puppets the nomination some how.
The Republicans at least have a decent selection to choose from this year.

[Redstate]

I thought that the most important part of Bill's speech was: To quit throwing rocks at those that don't like the same candidate as you. To try and remain friends no matter what someone else thinks about your candidate, and that can't we all just get along.

Agreed, except when it comes to hillary or bernie.

[TheTman]

Well, I don't think we have to worry about Hillary or Bernie supporters here. Those people are idiots. They need more than rocks thrown at them.

[wyntrout]

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[berettabone]

I thought that the most important part of Bill's speech was: To quit throwing rocks at those that don't like the same candidate as you. To try and remain friends no matter what someone else thinks about your candidate, and that can't we all just get along. He also had the humbleness to admit that he is not going to change anyone's vote, no matter what he says. Some people think if they jump up and down and scream Cruz is the only conservative long enough, that will convince people to change their vote.
Muggsy, I don't believe you when you say only a true conservative gets your vote. You voted for McCain, Romney, and Bush didn't you. Are those TRUE conservatives, I don't think so, but they beat the alternative.
Since Bush is out of the race, I'm going to vote for whoever the people select as the nominee. Unless they GOP plays tricks to get one of their puppets the nomination some how.
The Republicans at least have a decent selection to choose from this year.
You could have fooled me..........................

[Bawanna]

Rubio is an acceptable candidate, but Rubio is Cruz-lite. He's the establishments choice of a conservative candidate. If Cruz doesn't become the party's candidate then he should be nominated to the Supreme Court should a republican candidate win the election for president. Cruz is a conservative in the image of Antonin Scalia.

I think we've stumbled onto the root cause of all our political problems.

Doesn't one have to be a lawyer to qualify to be on the Supreme Court? Most politicians are lawyers before during or after their time in the political sun. Key word Lawyer. I rest my case, your witness.

[Redstate]

No constitutional requirement that one be a lawyer to qualify for the Supreme Ct.

[muggsy]

I thought that the most important part of Bill's speech was: To quit throwing rocks at those that don't like the same candidate as you. To try and remain friends no matter what someone else thinks about your candidate, and that can't we all just get along. He also had the humbleness to admit that he is not going to change anyone's vote, no matter what he says. Some people think if they jump up and down and scream Cruz is the only conservative long enough, that will convince people to change their vote.
Muggsy, I don't believe you when you say only a true conservative gets your vote. You voted for McCain, Romney, and Bush didn't you. Are those TRUE conservatives, I don't think so, but they beat the alternative.
Since Bush is out of the race, I'm going to vote for whoever the people select as the nominee. Unless they GOP plays tricks to get one of their puppets the nomination some how.
The Republicans at least have a decent selection to choose from this year.

I understood what Bill was saying and it didn't apply to me. As far as I'm concerned everyone is free to vote for anyone regardless of what I think of their choice. I have friends who are liberal democrats and that doesn't affect our friendship in the least. They're basically good people. They're simply badly misguide, just as some of my conservative friends are badly misguided. I don't see Hillary being indited as long as Obama is in office and controls the justice system. If elected she damn sure won't indite herself. If Trump is the republican nominee you can damn sure expect that the democrat party will pull out all of the stops and expose every one of Donald Trumps faults. They will be assisted by the liberal media who will beat that drum on a daily basis. When the public finds out about Trump's crooked business dealings the bloom will be off the rose. Cruz or Rubio don't have Trump's baggage and either one is capable of beating Clinton. Go ahead. Screw up. Vote for Trump. As a final note, I'm not the kind of person to go back on his word. I said that I would never vote for Donald Trump and I won't. I only vote for conservatives.

[muggsy]

I think we've stumbled onto the root cause of all our political problems.

Doesn't one have to be a lawyer to qualify to be on the Supreme Court? Most politicians are lawyers before during or after their time in the political sun. Key word Lawyer. I rest my case, your witness.

If you are ever forced to shoot someone Bawanna you may just find that your lawyer is your best friend, next to me and Jocko. :)

[Bawanna]

Lawyers only love money. If a lawyer loves you and is your best friend it's because he/she made a lot of money off you.

Most have no soul, none have much common sense, and all turn the search for justice into dollar signs.

[wyntrout]

Lawyers... all... Bill & Hillary Clinton and Barack & Moochell Obama... all disbarred.

[TheTman]

No one person's individual vote matters that much. So vote or don't vote for who you want. It doesn't really matter. The GOP candidate is going to have to be strong enough he can take on the Democrat, plus their massive voter fraud. Trump might have the connections to pull off some voter fraud of his own. While I hate to see that voting has got to this point, I'd say turnabout was fair play. And it might not be the first time the GOP has engaged in it. There were a lot of stories about George W having hundreds of votes on some voting machines before the polls ever opened. That's one of those things I think was probably a rumor started by Democrats, but I suppose it could have happened. The voting process is just another thing that is out of control in this country. They haven't found a way to eliminate voter fraud yet, and I doubt they ever do, no matter whether its paper ballots, voting machines, or whatever, there is a way to cheat. Like when Clinton was elected Governor, a State Trooper had one ballot box placed in his trunk to transport to the election office to be counted, but pulled out a different box that had been stuffed with a large majority of Clinton ballots and delivered that one to be counted. Maybe we should do like they did in Afghanistan, and use an ink that can't be washed off on a finger to mark the ballots, insuring that you only vote once. It would be easy to tell if you had voted before if you already had ink on your finger.

Like Bill Whittle suggested, we should be able to have a difference in opinion and still be civil with one another. It seems that I and some others have let this issue get out of hand. Politics and Religion cause strong feelings. Mixing the topics is really risky.

No matter who the GOP nominates, the MSM is going to be on the attack. if Cruz is found to be Natural born and wins the Nomination, much will be made about his Canadian birth, and his wife's ties to Goldman Sachs big money, and his failure to report loans for his Senate run on the proper forms, and if it was an accident or not. That's just how the MSM operates. Rubio will get the same treatment, they will dig up every thing he ever did that is questionable.
http://www.therealrubiorecord.com/ (http://www.therealrubiorecord.com/) shows what his opponents have against him already, and they're likely much more friendly than the MSM will be. The MSM will make that seem like a friendly site. Trump is used to being attacked by the MSM and a lot of others, and MIGHT be better equipped to take them on. It will be interesting campaign season, to say the least. Plus Trump is going to have to be alive, to get the nomination. I'm not ruling out anything at this point.

Meanwhile MSM will portray Hillary as St. Hillary of the Immaculate Candidacy.

[muggsy]

Lawyers only love money. If a lawyer loves you and is your best friend it's because he/she made a lot of money off you.

Most have no soul, none have much common sense, and all turn the search for justice into dollar signs.

That's kinda like saying that all cops are NFG. Thirty five of our countries founding fathers were Lawyers. Surprise!

[muggsy]

If Donald Trump becomes the republican candidate and he runs against Hillary once again the people of this country will have a chance to vote for someone who is totally untrustworthy. When one or the other is elected, remember what I said.

[SlowBurn]

I think we've stumbled onto the root cause of all our political problems.

Doesn't one have to be a lawyer to qualify to be on the Supreme Court? Most politicians are lawyers before during or after their time in the political sun. Key word Lawyer. I rest my case, your witness.

Cruz is a first rate lawyer and would be a great SCOTUS justice imo. Not going to happen but we can dream.

[TheTman]

If Trump wins big on Super Tuesday, he is most likely a dead man. The powers that be can't have someone like him meddling in their affairs; if he were to be the nominee and win the election. I don't think they want to take the chance of him even making it to the convention. I'm not convinced there will be an election anyway. Obama is looking for the spark that will set off a civil uprising so he can declare a State of Emergency. And become Dictator. I imagine the patsy for the Trump murder will turn out to be one of his right wing evangelical domestic terrorists. The real assassin(s) will never be caught. That could be the spark he needs to set off the civil unrest. Or it could be the BLM land grab, or another riot over a thug getting killed and the ensuing riots. Or it could have something to do with gun registration, and confiscation.
Everyone thinks he's a dummy, but I think he knows exactly what he is doing, or at least is following the orders of those that want to destroy our country. When he gets us to fighting among ourselves, one of our enemies is most likely going to take that opportunity to invade us.

[SlowBurn]

If Trump wins big on Super Tuesday, he is most likely a dead man. The powers that be can't have someone like him meddling in their affairs; if he were to be the nominee and win the election...

I don't think the "powers that be" are concerned with Trump. R establishment politicos aren't really the "powers that be." They're concerned because they think Trump will lose and make the whole R party look so bad that it will bring down Rs running for other offices. Other than that, meh. Trump is siphoning off all the legit anger at how things are run which might otherwise be channeled to get us back on the right track.

If does manage to get in, so what? All that patriotic tea party energy will have been disspated and nothing will be accomplished. Except maybe one boondogle construction project on the southern border. Maybe he'll also get a few little Guatemalan ladies who clean rooms at Motel 6 deported.

[JohnR]

...one boondogle construction project on the southern border. Maybe he'll also get a few little Guatemalan ladies who clean rooms at Motel 6 deported.
If that's all Trump end up accomplishing, it'll be because of Congress getting in the way. Blame Congress for that.

[Redstate]

... They're concerned because they think Trump will lose and make the whole R party look so bad that it will bring down Rs running for other offices. ...

...

The republican party already looks bad. As far as I am concerned, I am through with voting for the establishment type.

[OvalNut]

If that's all Trump end up accomplishing, it'll be because of Congress getting in the way. Blame Congress for that.

I'll disagree with that in that I will be voting for Trump to be effective in all aspects as the Chief Executive. The blame games are over. Within reason, if he doesn't get things accomplished, it's on him.


Tim

[Bawanna]

He'll struggle. He can't be bought but the congress and senate need to approve any of his plans unless of course he pulls and Obama and uses executive orders a LOT. The congressman and senators are still on the payroll of the puppet masters so he'll struggle.

No matter who is elected, they will struggle. Course if Clinton wins it just won't matter.

[Redstate]

Trump could legitmately and effectively use executive orders for the purpose for which they are designed. He could on day one tell all federal agencies to enforce the current immigration law. That would make significant headway.

[JohnR]

Trump could legitmately and effectively use executive orders for the purpose for which they are designed. He could on day one tell all federal agencies to enforce the current immigration law. That would make significant headway.
Bingo! And the agents would do so with gusto.

[OvalNut]

Bingo! And the agents would do so with gusto.

Double Bingo!!

I believe the correct term in that situation would be: With extreme prejudice. ;)

Tim

[SlowBurn]

The republican party already looks bad. As far as I am concerned, I am through with voting for the establishment type.

Honestly I've already said I prefer Rubio and why, but the guy who's furthest from "establishment" of anybody, is Cruz. Trump is not in the same league. Check this out by the left-wing Reich who was Clinton's secretary of labor. Cruz is an actual threat to these guys, and Reich knows it.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/robert-reich-4-reasons-ted-cruz-even-more-dangerous-donald-trump

[TheTman]

Looks like the Rubio supporters have reason to be optimistic. With Jeb out of the race, that money and support is now headed to Rubio. He has 10 Republican Senators backing him so far, for whatever that is worth. To me, he is more of Bush Light, (beer jokes anyone?) than Cruz light. Rubio was the 2nd choice after Bush for the Establishment GOP's. The next puppet that can be controlled. The mudslingers are already scrambling for ammunition. Someone said last night that there are photos of him that insinuate he is gay. I don't know how reliable that source or his source is. It was just something I heard in while changing stations that caught my attention. After that they changed topic and I changed stations

[JohnR]

I kinda see Rubio as Dan Quayle. Smart, somewhat conservative, but easy pickings for the schoolyard bullies.

[muggsy]

Some of the people on this MB don't seem to understand the seriousness of this election and are more interested in who's on "Dancing with the Stars". Every republican who is running for president has stated that if elected that they would rescind every one of Obama's unconstitutional executive orders, not just Trump. Cruz was the first to say it.

[OvalNut]

Every Republican running in this race is doing the bidding of other people who are paying them a lot of money to do what they are told to do. Except for Donald Trump. Trump will not get the call telling him not to rescind certain items.

What the Republican Establishment is either tone deaf to or refuses to a knowledge is that Trump cannot be bought. You need to wrap your mind around that very simple FACT. Any diatribe spouting any particular candidate's "Conservative bona fides" is purely vacant puffery in the face of their answering to the bidding of the puppet masters who pay their bills and pull their strings.


Tim

[SlowBurn]

I kinda see Rubio as Dan Quayle. Smart, somewhat conservative, but easy pickings for the schoolyard bullies.

Its cause he's young, pretty, and uses all that "president of the student body" rhetoric. But Rubio has a history of winning tough political fights without losing that air. He also got knocked down in NH and seems to have gotten back up, so lets see how he holds up from here out. Trump is a perfect schoolyard bully so that will be a good test of whether Rubio is easy pickings.

[O'Dell]

As a final note, I'm not the kind of person to go back on his word. I said that I would never vote for Donald Trump and I won't. I only vote for conservatives.

I'm also a lifelong conservative and don't like Trump either, Muggsy, but if the vote comes down to Trump vs Clinton in November, which is looking more and more probable, which "conservative" will get your vote? Of course you can always stay home like millions of conservatives did in 2012 - I think we all know how that worked out.