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    I've been approach many times at gas stations and going in and out of stores. I simply politely tell them I don't have change or cash, and they typically say "okay thanks." If I have spare change, I give it as it's nothing to me. I was born in NYC and currently live in Hampton Roads, VA. Panhandling is common thing to see.

    You tase, mace, stab, shoot, or assult someone who simply walked up to talk to you while you're in public, you're going to jail and rightfully so because that's were you belong. They may even have legal justification to use deadly force against you. It is not illegal to walk up to people in public space, and you can not legal tell people were they can or can not walk on public and private property that doesn't belong to you.
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    I'd like to see Kahr release an aluminum frame series with staggered stack mags in 9mm, 45acp, and 10mm. If they could do it in DA/SA, that could be a hit too.

    A double or staggered stack polymer frame Glock clone in the endless sea of more popular and established pistols that are simular is NOT going to sell well for Kahr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 187911 View Post
    I'd like to see Kahr release an aluminum frame series with staggered stack mags in 9mm, 45acp, and 10mm. If they could do it in DA/SA, that could be a hit too.

    A double or staggered stack polymer frame Glock clone in the endless sea of more popular and established pistols that are simular is NOT going to sell well for Kahr.
    Agree that just another double stack is going to do nothing in the Sea of new Double stacks. Lol, Can't even keep of with them now. What is fun, interesting or amusing about this thread, is just having a good time using your imagination of just what the heck they ARE going to do, make the gun unique and a stand out? Has Justin Moon all along been planning this the whole time, most thought he was stagnant? I think it could go either way, a huge success or huge flop. Place your bets Gentlemen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 187911 View Post
    I've been approach many times at gas stations and going in and out of stores. I simply politely tell them I don't have change or cash, and they typically say "okay thanks." If I have spare change, I give it as it's nothing to me. I was born in NYC and currently live in Hampton Roads, VA. Panhandling is common thing to see.

    You tase, mace, stab, shoot, or assult someone who simply walked up to talk to you while you're in public, you're going to jail and rightfully so because that's were you belong. They may even have legal justification to use deadly force against you. It is not illegal to walk up to people in public space, and you can not legal tell people were they can or can not walk on public and private property that doesn't belong to you.
    Your statements are true, and make sense. However there are times when it turns out badly. Therefore one should remain vigilant. A while back in my area a father was putting gas in his van and was approached by an unstable male who asked for a light. The father gave him one and the man proceded to stab the father to death in front of his daughter. Then calmly walked into the attached convenience store to make purchases. You just never know, and so it's a good practice to be prepared for the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dao View Post
    Your statements are true, and make sense. However there are times when it turns out badly. Therefore one should remain vigilant. A while back in my area a father was putting gas in his van and was approached by an unstable male who asked for a light. The father gave him one and the man proceded to stab the father to death in front of his daughter. Then calmly walked into the attached convenience store to make purchases. You just never know, and so it's a good practice to be prepared for the worst.
    I mean there's an anecdotal examples of any and everything including people being abruptly killed by family members and even spouses, and they never seen it coming. I see nothing wrong with being prepared for the worse, but I don't go into DEFCON 1 over someone simply approaching me to ask a question or for a favor. Even I had to approach random strangers for a jump and even once to use their phone to make a phone call when I was stranded once.

    I guess being from and living in very populated areas gives me a different outlook than people who aren't use to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Rat View Post
    Agree that just another double stack is going to do nothing in the Sea of new Double stacks. Lol, Can't even keep of with them now. What is fun, interesting or amusing about this thread, is just having a good time using your imagination of just what the heck they ARE going to do, make the gun unique and a stand out? Has Justin Moon all along been planning this the whole time, most thought he was stagnant? I think it could go either way, a huge success or huge flop. Place your bets Gentlemen.

    Kahr only sells a few thousand at the low end of guns per year, and have been basically selling the same guns with little to no updates since 1994 and 2004 respectively while the rest of the world has moved on. I don't believe Justin Moon really cares all that much about the Kahr line in comparison to the other companies the Kahr Group acquired. Kahr Group makes more money off of selling rifles, 1911s, and Desert Eagles than the pennies they get from selling Kahrs. The sales numbers for the Kahr line have been falling with each passing year of no updates or improvements.

    I love Kahr handguns, but even I purchased all but one of mine used because they aren't worth the MSRP to me, and the resale price on Kahrs are extremely low for everything except the T9. I only purchased my K40 NIB because it was on sale for $300. I, like most, aren't going to spend $500+ on a polymer Kahr or $600+ on the steel frame ones outside of the T9 and T40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 187911 View Post
    I mean there's an anecdotal examples of any and everything including people being abruptly killed by family members and even spouses, and they never seen it coming. I see nothing wrong with being prepared for the worse, but I don't go into DEFCON 1 over someone simply approaching me to ask a question or for a favor. Even I had to approach random strangers for a jump and even once to use their phone to make a phone call when I was stranded once.

    I guess being from and living in very populated areas gives me a different outlook than people who aren't use to it.
    Well, there are right ways to approach a stranger, and wrong ways. For example if someone approaches with their hand or hands in their pockets or behind their back then it would be wise to be ready. Same goes if someone else's actions just cause your spidey senses to tingle. Being able to read people is very useful when being in close proximity to strangers. We don't have to be in DEFCON 1, you're right. But then again there's nothing wrong with doing so, so long as it's not obvious to others. Easier to stand down than it is to come to attention a second behind the curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Rat View Post
    Here is something I would like to see on a Kahr. This is from Lakeline for the GX4.

    What is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 187911 View Post

    I love Kahr handguns, but even I purchased all but one of mine used because they aren't worth the MSRP to me, and the resale price on Kahrs are extremely low for everything except the T9. I only purchased my K40 NIB because it was on sale for $300. I, like most, aren't going to spend $500+ on a polymer Kahr or $600+ on the steel frame ones outside of the T9 and T40.
    Yep... Me too. Bought my first Kahr when they were so new that none had hit the used market, and they were actually still reasonably priced (probably due to being an upstart). Wouldn't pay anywhere near retail for any of them now. Make the current K9 rds ready, and I'm in. No other changes needed, but an aluminum frame would be icing on the cake. Yeah, they could do something with the mags, but making the steel base plates available again would be enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 187911 View Post
    Kahr only sells a few thousand at the low end of guns per year, and have been basically selling the same guns with little to no updates since 1994 and 2004 respectively while the rest of the world has moved on. I don't believe Justin Moon really cares all that much about the Kahr line in comparison to the other companies the Kahr Group acquired. Kahr Group makes more money off of selling rifles, 1911s, and Desert Eagles than the pennies they get from selling Kahrs. The sales numbers for the Kahr line have been falling with each passing year of no updates or improvements.

    I love Kahr handguns, but even I purchased all but one of mine used because they aren't worth the MSRP to me, and the resale price on Kahrs are extremely low for everything except the T9. I only purchased my K40 NIB because it was on sale for $300. I, like most, aren't going to spend $500+ on a polymer Kahr or $600+ on the steel frame ones outside of the T9 and T40.
    I agree with you on some of your points. I have gotten to the where that I really do not care what the public (internet) wants. Nor do I care that much about resale value. Just do not sell my guns. The only one I did get rid of was a gun that had a trigger that was too light and after shooting it frequently, it became way too light and I actually traded it for a used CM9 at my LGS.

    I do agree with you that the MSRP is way too high. I think my days of owning Kahr's are over and happy with what I do have. We live in new times. New and better metals, more sophisticated technology for manufacturing, etc. We are seeing budget guns that are actually very good Quality for as much as half the price of some of the name brands.

    One is the Taurus GX4. It has proved to me, with now over 1500 rounds to be one the best deals I have made on a firearm. And one fact, it is insanely reliable. And tearing the gun down you can see a lot of quality went into the gun. It shoots great, fantastic grip etc. But there are many others costing less as well and showing good performance. (I just ordered a Spare Slide complete with all parts minus the recoil spring and barrel for only $129 and it is cerakoted.




    I have never been a Glock fan. Great guns, but never a good fit for myself. I have tried to like them over and over, but just not me. And I always get a finger blister from shooting them.
    In comes PSA and the Dagger, and I truly believe it to be a better Mouse Trap. And look at the cost difference. I shoot it much better with the different grip design and no blister.
    It will be interesting to see the "New Kahr". Not sure what they can do at this point with the competition, but maybe they will built a nice gun and totally affordable Price.

    This Package with 10 magazines is only $349.00

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