cant get slide to come off...

[Bawanna]

If he missed the barrel lug he won't be able to get the slide all the way on and probably won't be able to get it off without Gregs' technique thru the mag well or thru the back of the slide.
I had to do a couple co workers years ago, Greg as usual saved the day in getting them back on track. (and made me look good too, not an easy thing).

[dao]

That's what I was thinking about Colonel. But I didn't recall that the slide wouldn't go all the way back on. Any ideas on this one? Is it possible the cocking cam won't go forward?

weems have you tried pulling the trigger while continuing to press it all the way back while you try to move the slide forward?

[weemsf50]

That's what I was thinking about Colonel. But I didn't recall that the slide wouldn't go all the way back on. Any ideas on this one? Is it possible the cocking cam won't go forward?

weems have you tried pulling the trigger while continuing to press it all the way back while you try to move the slide forward?

Pulling the trigger does not make it move at all. When I stick the magazine in, the slide will then move into place.

[dao]

What I meant was, can you pull the slide forward, off the frame if you press and hold the trigger?

[getsome]

I got my PM9 slide stuck once because I messed up and didn’t get the rear of the recoil spring assembly in it’s happy notch-shelf and it took some cussing and working to get the slide back off but once the recoil spring was centered and level with the barrel it was fine but what I can’t figure out is why inserting the magazine changes things unless you got the slide stop pin into the barrel lug hole but maybe got it under the spring rather than in it’s slot which would be inserting the pin into the barrel kidney hole slot but not level with the frame but at a 4:00 position getting the slide stop spring in the wrong position…….You can drive out the slide stop with a punch far enough to clear the spring and try to reinsert in a proper, level to the frame rail position but if you haven’t inserted the slide stop pin yet and the slide got hung it it almost has to be the recoil spring assembly not seated correctly…….Good luck and if all else fails send it back to the mother ship and let Kahr figure it out…..

[weemsf50]

What I meant was, can you pull the slide forward, off the frame if you press and hold the trigger?

No sir, not without inserting the magazine and racking the slide back first. Without the magazine, it has about 3/8" travel back and forth on the frame.

[dao]

Quick search:

https://www.handgunforum.net/threads...s-stuck.25790/

There are a lot of possibilities out there, including sticking a wood or plastic dowel (or brass), down the barrel to provide leverage in order to free up a locked up barrel. Works for some, not for others. Kahrs are tight, as you can now attest to. Something not quite right during reassembly can lock up the barrel preventing disassembly.

We'll all be interested in the outcome of this for you. It's how we all learn, including those in the future that may find themselves in the same or a similar situation.

[weemsf50]

Well, I took my CM9 out to my reloading bench and took it apart. When I replaced the recoil spring setup I pushed it very slightly off center, like the feed ramp is, and voila! Put it right back on and off with no more issues.

[getsome]

That is good news weemsf50……..that guide rod assembly has to be centered and right on the notch to be happy……I made up so many new cuss words trying to figure out that very same problem with mine so glad you got it working again…….We all learn good stuff here……..

[Bawanna]

Actually it needs to be perfectly parallel to the slide and in the notch. It's designed slightly off center which is what trips us all up some. Mine usually won't go on if it's the slightest bit off. No idea why it would go on with the mag inserted, no correlation there that I can think of.